Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 20:47 UTC

Apple today announced the all-new Mac Pro will be available to order starting Thursday, December 19. Redesigned from the inside out, the all-new Mac Pro features the latest Intel Xeon processors, dual workstation-class GPUs, PCIe-based flash storage and ultra-fast ECC memory.

This thing is so damn awesome. I don't need it, but I still want one.

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RE[7]: Comment by Fergy
by fmaxwell on Fri 20th Dec 2013 00:57 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Fergy"
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no, what you are doing is regurgitating marketing-bullshit

No, what I am doing is responding to some kid who think's he knows more than he does.

chipset-wise they are the same (or probably will be the same)

I'm not interested in your speculation.

ecc gddr5? sure you don't mix that up with ecc ddr3

The D700 and W9000 both use 6 GB of GDDR5 VRAM with ECC.

the d700 only does 3,5 TFLOPS not 4.

And you're basing that on 'regurgitated marketing-bullshit'? For all that you know, Apple is just being more conservative in their ratings.

but you can take a look at a nice 7970 consumer-card:

I'm an engineer in the aerospace industry, not a child looking for something on which to play video games with my little friends.

"Apple and AMD call the D700 a "FirePro" because it is a workstation GPU with the associated hardware, firmware, and drivers.

nice speculation your facts
It's not "speculation." The FirePro name means something to AMD and the engineering community. You can't take a consumer gaming card and slap the FirePro name on it.

Some high-end engineering and CAD packages refuse to even run on gaming cards. One example is Solidworks. In other cases, you'll see packages like Lightwave and Maya getting more than double the performance on the workstation card compared to its gamer card brethren.

Tom's Hardware did a comparison between 21 video cards, both gaming and workstation and summed it up as follows:

Bottom Line

For the most part, gaming graphics cards don't work for professional applications, and increasingly, ISVs are requiring workstation-class hardware. The only real exceptions are DirectX-based titles like AutoCAD 2013 and Inventor 2013, where the additional optimizations to a pro card and its drivers aren't necessary. There are also certain compute-heavy applications for which desktop-oriented cards perform well also, so long as you can live without features like ECC memory. But if one messed up byte could throw your result off, sending Wall Street into a tailspin, a workstation graphics card designed for the job is a smart choice.

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RE[8]: Comment by Fergy
by smashIt on Fri 20th Dec 2013 01:38 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Fergy"
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Some high-end engineering and CAD packages refuse to even run on gaming cards. One example is Solidworks.

cad packages i had running on consumer hardware (ranging from the first radeon up to my current 7850):
solid edge
solid works
pro e

maybe you should try it next time
if you want to, you can use a patched firepro-driver for better opengl-performance (but i never felt the need for it)

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