Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jan 2014 16:36 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

On the eve of LG's launch, I sat down with webOS's head of product management and design, Itai Vonshak, as well as Colin Zhao, director of product management for LG's Silicon Valley Lab. As they demoed LG's new interface to me, I was by turns intrigued, bemused, and doubtful that it was up to the task of convincing people that it would be worth buying a new TV for. Most of all, I was impressed by the clarity of vision behind the new interface. For better or worse, webOS has an opinion about how smart TVs should treat their users, and by all appearances that opinion is executed very, very well. LG is better known for pretty schizophrenic Android skins on its smartphones, so to see the company produce something this coherent was a shock.

It looks quite amazing - but I still find it very hard to be excited over a TV.

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Comment by ddc_
by ddc_ on Mon 6th Jan 2014 19:56 UTC
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2006-12-05

FWIW I always wanted something opposite to SmartTV - a dumb monitor and a multimedia center that would somehow manage all data sources and allow for all kinds of stuff. Now that they try to concentrate everything into TV I have to think hard about the possible changes in multimedia delivery within coming years when I buy one, because if I buy a SmartTV that doesn't support DVB-T300 which is rumored to enter mainstream in 5 years in my location, I may be out of luck, as well as if the other rumor about mass transition to DVB-S500 is true instead. Or may be youtube, netflix, etc. will be lost in abyss the next year after vendor stops updating my firmware (next year?) and I'll have to solve the problem of connecting to new shiny Web 4.0 service all on my own... And what about HEVC, VP9 and Daala that are going to overtake the video world any time soon?

When I buy things I'm going to use for quite some time I want them to be stupid and extensible, not smart and self-contained.

Edited 2014-01-06 19:57 UTC

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RE: Comment by ddc_
by Alfman on Mon 6th Jan 2014 21:57 in reply to "Comment by ddc_"
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2011-01-28

ddc_,

"FWIW I always wanted something opposite to SmartTV - a dumb monitor and a multimedia center that would somehow manage all data sources and allow for all kinds of stuff."

"When I buy things I'm going to use for quite some time I want them to be stupid and extensible, not smart and self-contained."

I also want TVs to connect to everything, yet having dumb TV's is preventing them from being extensible in the digital age. Being a "dumb monitor" is an impediment to integration possibilities. Think about any new feature that would extend the utility of the TV, now consider how such a feature has to be implemented as an add on device for a dumb TV versus as being integrated with a smart TV. Even something as simple as an on screen notification is a major problem without getting a service provider to integrate it in some proprietary way on their end. Today's dumb TV's are creating fragmentation of functionality between devices that in my view should be integrated into a smart TV.


Many TV's already have microprocessors in them. With scales of economy, I don't think it would be cost prohibitive at all to transform them into smart tvs that allow the devices to more intelligently interact with each other as well as with the user. We really need good vendor-neutral standards though, that's key, but that's also a huge source of uncertainty for the future of smart tvs.

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RE: Comment by ddc_
by Lennie on Tue 7th Jan 2014 09:48 in reply to "Comment by ddc_"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I suggested above, I just want some tuners for PVR and watching TV on a SteamMachine from Valve.

Everything in one box: games, tv/pvr, online streaming and yes, even youtube.

The box is open/upgradable.

Looking at the designs that came out of CES, I don't think anyone thought about leaving room for a tunercard.

Edited 2014-01-07 09:52 UTC

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