Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jan 2014 20:39 UTC
Google

You no longer need someone's email address to send them an email. At least, that will soon be the case if you want to email another Google+ user. A new Gmail "feature" will let you simply type in anyone's name into Gmail's "to" field and send them an email. Google announced the new Google+ integration on its Gmail blog today, but company representatives have clarified to The Verge that - by default - anyone on its social network will be able to send messages to your Gmail inbox.

It's opt-out; so it's enabled by default. I don't think Google has ever had a more stupid idea than this. This is just all-around bad - no ifs, no buts, nothing. You must be completely brain-dead to think that implementing this "feature" is in any way, shape, or form, a good idea.

I'll be turning this off right away - I don't want random internet people emailing me any more than they already do. Equally idiotic, when you start typing a name in Gmail's to/cc fields, it will autocomplete to Google+ usernames. I have no idea if you can turn this brain fart off.

I don't like Google+, I don't want Google+ - I just want it to go away. Please.

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Comment by wojtek
by wojtek on Thu 9th Jan 2014 21:16 UTC
wojtek
Member since:
2010-01-24

You must be completely brain-dead to think that implementing this "feature" is in any way, shape, or form, a good idea.

Well, but at least google can boast again that number of fake users of their shitty 'social networks' grows...

I know virtually noone using google+ (of the folks that I care or know even remotely) nor wanting to use it. From the looks of it - (when I every once in a while stumble against a link to it) it seems more like a dumbed-down blogging platform...

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RE: Comment by wojtek
by WereCatf on Thu 9th Jan 2014 21:28 in reply to "Comment by wojtek"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I know virtually noone using google+ (of the folks that I care or know even remotely) nor wanting to use it. From the looks of it - (when I every once in a while stumble against a link to it) it seems more like a dumbed-down blogging platform...


Well, I use it from time to time. I probably am a person you don't care about, though. Alas, I quite like Google+, it's more serious than Facebook or the likes and seems more suited for actual discussion of stuff. And I like how it falls in between blogging and random fluff/chatting. It certainly attracts a whole different kind of audience than Facebook -- something that I find a big plus.

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by wojtek on Thu 9th Jan 2014 21:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
wojtek Member since:
2010-01-24

Yup... I got e-mail from that... If I find something interesting I simply share it with a (few) people(s) and then there is this 'replay to all'. A bonus - it's easier to track the discussion and mark mails as read/unread (i.e. to respond later)... (and also - I love the usenet and mailing lists - no webby fluff at all!)

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by phoenix on Thu 9th Jan 2014 22:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Once I realised that Google+ wasn't trying to be a better Facebook, I started to enjoy using it. Don't compare it to Facebook, it's really nothing like it.

Think of Google+ as a better Twitter, and suddenly, it makes sense. And it's useful. And the security settings make sense.


As for the e-mail thingy, it's really no different than Facebook Messaging (send someone an "e-mail" to their Facebook account knowing only their Facebook screen name). Especially when you start to look at things as being part of a cohesive package:
- G+ is the blog/public profile/webpage
- GMail is the slow/long-term messaging portion of G+
- Hangouts is the instant messaging portion of G+
- Voice is the VoIP portion of G+
- etc

When you look at it that way, it's really no different than what Facebook is trying to do.
- Facebook is the blog/public profile/webpage
- Messaging is the slow/long-term messaging portion
- Messaging is the instant messaging portion
- Messaging is the VoIP portion
- etc

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by Morgan on Thu 9th Jan 2014 22:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm not sure how to feel about the email integration. On the one hand, I do like Google+ and I've had great conversations with you and many other friends there. On the other hand, I've been weaning myself off of Gmail and onto my own self hosted email for a while now, so this would be one more reason to keep going in that direction if it does turn out to be a spam issue.

I guess I'll give it a go, and if it gets annoying I'll be sure to opt out.

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by bassbeast on Fri 10th Jan 2014 21:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But how long do you think that is gonna last before Google takes a steamer all over it Werecat?

I too like G+ for geeky discussions but the problem is that Google won't be happy until it gets Facebook money from G+ so its gonna keep doing boneheaded crap like this until G+ is as worthless as MySpace.

And THAT, that right there, is the problem with western business in a nutshell. Nobody is happy just letting something grow, find its niche, and be reasonably profitable anymore. Nope, gotta be as big as (insert huge company) or its a giant screaming FAIL! and not worth messing with.

So don't get attached to it Werecat because G+ will go the way of Google Reader. It won't matter if it has users, won't matter if they are making a profit on it, its not FB money so they'll keep doing stupid shit like today until the entire platform is so toxic nobody will touch it. Sad but that is just how they do it now in the west.

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RE: Comment by wojtek
by modmans2ndcoming on Thu 9th Jan 2014 23:29 in reply to "Comment by wojtek"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

How is it shitty? I find the conversation much better on G+ than on Facebook and I can easily share my pictures to my family....even those who do not have or actively use G+ (sends to their e-mail)

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by phoenix on Thu 9th Jan 2014 23:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

How is it shitty? I find the conversation much better on G+ than on Facebook


What's missing from G+ is proper threading, where replies to specific comments go right underneath that comment.

It's really annoying trying to read through a long list of comments and trying to keep everything straight in my head about who is replying to who.

If they do that, a lot of issues with G+ will just disappear.

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RE[2]: Comment by wojtek
by Soulbender on Fri 10th Jan 2014 08:26 in reply to "RE: Comment by wojtek"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

He doesn't use it therefore it's shitty. Basic internet logic.

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RE: Comment by wojtek
by allanregistos on Fri 10th Jan 2014 00:55 in reply to "Comment by wojtek"
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

You must be completely brain-dead to think that implementing this "feature" is in any way, shape, or form, a good idea.

Well, but at least google can boast again that number of fake users of their shitty 'social networks' grows...

I know virtually noone using google+ (of the folks that I care or know even remotely) nor wanting to use it. From the looks of it - (when I every once in a while stumble against a link to it) it seems more like a dumbed-down blogging platform...


I am using Google+ even though none among my facebook friends/family were using it.
It is technically better than Facebook, and you have more control over what to share and post.

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