Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Jan 2014 10:06 UTC
Windows

Paul Thurrott on the next version of Windows and the future of the platform.

In some ways, the most interesting thing about Threshold is how it recasts Windows 8 as the next Vista. It's an acknowledgment that what came before didn't work, and didn't resonate with customers. And though Microsoft will always be able to claim that Windows 9 wouldn't have been possible without the important foundational work they had done first with Windows 8 - just as was the case with Windows 7 and Windows Vista - there's no way to sugarcoat this. Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good.

With even Paul Thurrott claiming Windows is in trouble, it becomes virtually impossible to deny it is so.

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Aggregation
by wocowboy on Mon 13th Jan 2014 11:32 UTC
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I'm more concerned with the fact that OS News has become nothing but an aggregator and re-post site of articles from other websites. The immediately previous article to this is nothing but a re-post of a Verge piece, and this one is from the Win SuperSite by Paul Thurrott. There hasn't been an original post on OS News in ages. I already read The Verge and Win Supersite every day and don't need to rehash it all on here. OS News used to be a place to find interesting original articles about alternative OS's, but it isn't any more. Sad.

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RE: Aggregation
by tails92 on Mon 13th Jan 2014 11:35 in reply to "Aggregation"
tails92 Member since:
2007-10-07

Seconded. I agree wholeheartedly with you.

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by Nelson on Mon 13th Jan 2014 11:40 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

NSA, Windows 8/Phone sucks, and Patents.

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RE: Aggregation
by righard on Mon 13th Jan 2014 11:46 in reply to "Aggregation"
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2007-12-26

It's because of people like you and me that don't post any original or interesting articles.

Edited 2014-01-13 11:50 UTC

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RE: Aggregation
by Morgan on Mon 13th Jan 2014 11:47 in reply to "Aggregation"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Then write an article and submit it. If you actually read Thom's original articles, you'd know that he works full time, has a social and personal life, and still makes time to be the managing editor here. I mean seriously, on a site that covers all OSes but more importantly covers open source news, you would think an open source mindset like "if you don't like it, fix it" would prevail. The site is extremely open to user-submitted articles, and if you don't like what you see here, write!

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by tidux on Mon 13th Jan 2014 12:36 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
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2011-08-13

I think part of the problem is that there's not a whole lot of news in the alternative OS space. We're deluged with Windows articles already, there are far better aggregators of news about Linux, and for every OS X release you can just head on over to Ars and read the Siracusa review. That basically leaves OSNews as a weird mashup of groklaw, mobile operating systems, and a Haiku post every few months. I guess there's pressure to have more constant story submissions on a site with "news" in the name and URL, but sometimes there's just not a whole lot left to report on.

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by MOS6510 on Mon 13th Jan 2014 12:51 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
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2011-05-12

Then you'd be reading stuff you yourself wrote, if it gets accepted.

I submit news, but on average, I guess, 1 in every 4 or 5 submissions gets accepted.

Finding news and submitting doesn't take a lot of effort, so if I find a great article, submit me and it doesn't get accepted it isn't a great loss. But what if I spend hours or even days on an article and it gets rejected?

Maybe a better plan would be to attract people who want to become writers and journalists and give them a podium here. Or an idea I gave earlier is to link articles, as is done now, and add comments from a number of fixed staff members. Thom, or the one who accepted the post, can add a long comment and the others can give a small take on it. A bit like was done with game reviews in Zzap!64 where one person did a full review and a few others just gave an opinion in a few lines.

The idea is to give a number of insights and provide material for the commenters like us.

BTW wasn't there a remake of the site planned?

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by peejay on Mon 13th Jan 2014 13:32 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
peejay Member since:
2005-06-29

Then write an article and submit it. If you actually read Thom's original articles, you'd know that he works full time, has a social and personal life, and still makes time to be the managing editor here. I mean seriously, on a site that covers all OSes but more importantly covers open source news, you would think an open source mindset like "if you don't like it, fix it" would prevail. The site is extremely open to user-submitted articles, and if you don't like what you see here, write!


This comment: http://www.osnews.com/permalink?580530 is at least as comprehensive as the original article.

Can we submit someone else's comment as an article? ;)

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by Alfman on Mon 13th Jan 2014 16:25 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Morgan,

Well, to be fair, we work too. What we'd really need is part time or even full time staff producing original content, however obviously it becomes a financial problem. OSnews may not be willing/able to hire full time staff. I know that I couldn't afford to if it were me.

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by wocowboy on Tue 14th Jan 2014 09:39 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
wocowboy Member since:
2006-06-01

I am not a writer. I am a user, an alternative OS fan for 15 years or so, a reader of several websites each day on subjects that I am interested in. It is not a matter of "if you don't like it, write your own articles and fix the problem yourself, it's a matter of going to a website where there are articles of original content on the subject of that particular website, written usually by the owners and people hired by the website owners, not simply re-posts or articles already posted on other websites. It's quite a simple process. Joshua Topolsky does not run The Verge where there is nothing but re-posts of articles from Cnet, Engadget, Gizmodo, etc, they have writers that do their own content. I guess it's too much to ask that this little website OS News do the same.

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RE[2]: Aggregation
by zima on Thu 16th Jan 2014 06:10 in reply to "RE: Aggregation"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

on a site that covers all OSes but more importantly covers open source news

From the FAQ at the top it's rather clear that "OS" stands for "operating systems"... ;)

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RE: Aggregation
by Moredhas on Mon 13th Jan 2014 20:29 in reply to "Aggregation"
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2008-04-10

Because every time Thom posts an opinion piece, or an original article, the crowd bitches and moans about how OS News has become Thom Holwerda's blog.

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