Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Jan 2014 10:06 UTC
Windows

Paul Thurrott on the next version of Windows and the future of the platform.

In some ways, the most interesting thing about Threshold is how it recasts Windows 8 as the next Vista. It's an acknowledgment that what came before didn't work, and didn't resonate with customers. And though Microsoft will always be able to claim that Windows 9 wouldn't have been possible without the important foundational work they had done first with Windows 8 - just as was the case with Windows 7 and Windows Vista - there's no way to sugarcoat this. Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good.

With even Paul Thurrott claiming Windows is in trouble, it becomes virtually impossible to deny it is so.

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RE[6]: Aggregation
by sbenitezb on Mon 13th Jan 2014 14:50 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Aggregation"
sbenitezb
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2005-07-22

Maybe you should open your eyes. There's been plenty of interesting stuff happening all around us, what with Oculus VR, wearable computing, NLS speech recognition, holographic interfaces and so on.


Holographic interfaces are interesting. Wearable computing is crap very little people will use. Speech recognition is nothing new; it has improved in the last 20 years but not that much that makes it useful. And even if it was useful, people won't go by talking to their phone and hope it understands correctly all they say. It may work for english (a simplistic language) half the time.

About Oculus VR, you might think it's some new idea, but is as old as more than 10 years and never took off. I've see reality glasses before (and even a FPS game), but if that's what you think is interesting, you have very low standards.

I'd say you just lack imagination. Mobile computing could be exceedingly powerful in the future with better speech recognition, visual object identification, mixed virtual/real-world interfaces, even neural input --


I think you have too much imagination if you think all that augmented reality crap is going to make people use it and love it. 3D TVs are a flop, there you might have some interesting facts about what people like. We already have proper 3D in real life. We don't need a replacement. Or you think most played games are all 3D with fancy graphics and hardware? Think again, Candy Crash and stupid farm games are what people like. People like simple, and 2D works fine for most of us. 3D gadgets are nothing new or interesting anymore.

And who knows, maybe one day mobile devices can just be popped in a dock and have them transform into desktop computing platforms, blurring the distinction altogether?


This already happened. Nothing new and didn't work. Maybe it is not time yet.

You know what they say about opinions and assholes...


Yeah, tell me something I don't know and surprise me. You write opinions too.

Edited 2014-01-13 14:52 UTC

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RE[7]: Aggregation
by WereCatf on Mon 13th Jan 2014 15:20 in reply to "RE[6]: Aggregation"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Wearable computing is crap very little people will use.


Because of...what? Just simply because you don't like the stuff that's out now? You can see to the future and can tell that everyone has the same tastes as you and there will never be any new innovations in the area of wearable computing?

Speech recognition is nothing new; it has improved in the last 20 years but not that much that makes it useful.


Tell that to all the people using Siri, Google Now, all the various speech recog - based assistants on Play Store and so on.

And even if it was useful, people won't go by talking to their phone and hope it understands correctly all they say. It may work for english (a simplistic language) half the time.


Yes, because it's totally impossible for the tech to ever improve..

About Oculus VR, you might think it's some new idea


Nope. Doesn't make it any less of an interesting one, nevertheless. For example electric cars were already invented back in 1884, but they're only now becoming useful. The idea itself was always interesting and useful, it's just that the technology wasn't ready. It's the same thing with VR.

We already have proper 3D in real life. We don't need a replacement.


And again the fallacy of "I don't like it so no one can." We have spreadsheets in real life, does that mean we don't need them on our computers? We have brains capable of doing maths, does that mean we don't need computers? We have real life, does that mean we don't need movies? No, it does not work like that.

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RE[8]: Aggregation
by lucas_maximus on Mon 13th Jan 2014 16:14 in reply to "RE[7]: Aggregation"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Tell that to all the people using Siri, Google Now, all the various speech recog - based assistants on Play Store and so on.


Speech recognition doesn't work if you have an accent. I have a mile West Country accent and all the voice activated stuff falls on its arse. Scottish Accent it just doesn't work.

Most not UK English speakers (that are native) have a hard time understanding unfamiliar foreign accents. My Boss who is from the US I have worked with for over 2 years says sometimes he still has problems with mine. I really don't think the tech can improve enough if people have problems.

Edited 2014-01-13 16:19 UTC

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RE[8]: Aggregation
by bnolsen on Tue 14th Jan 2014 03:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Aggregation"
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2006-01-06

The sad part about this cool technology is that its all years away from going anywhere and very few prototype devices exist.

The walled garden stuff around mobile is fairly discouraging. Another big hit to OS development are that many of the soc blocks are totally proprietary and hidden so device drivers don't exist except a few binary ones targeted a specific android kernels. The mess almost makes me want to cheer for intel but I wish we had another player out there.

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