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Anybody following tech media in the past few years would instantly recognize the Thorne. He's a fanboy. That is, the kind of crazily obsessed tech enthusiast who appears to have become unhinged somewhere between peeling off his smartphone's screen protector and making his 457th comment on Android Central. He seems to love - as in, romantically love - his phone. He explodes with rage when somebody says anything less than glowingly positive about it.

I've been dealing with fanboys for as long as I'm an OSNews editor - made worse by the fact that I don't really have a strong allegiance to any platform, and therefore, tend to criticise and praise each of them at the same time, on a weekly basis. This means I have to deal with all manner of fanboys, and while it sometimes can be quite tiring, it's just kind of adorable most of the time.

The other side of the coin is being accused of being biased for or against something. I used to maintain a list of all the companies and products I was accused of being biased for or against. Interestingly enough, all of the companies and products mentioned appeared in both the biased for and biased against column. In other words, I was biased for and against every single company and product mentioned on OSNews at the same time.

In the meantime, out in the real world, I try to use as many different products from as many different companies as (financially) possible, so that I gather as much as real-world experience as I can. So, in the past 18-24 months, I've bought a Nexus 7, HTC 8X Windows Phone, Surface RT, iMac, Find 5 (Android), a self-built Windows 8 PC, Nokia E7 (Symbian), iPhone 5S, Jolla, and only last week I added a Nokia N9 to my collection. On top of that, I've used a whole bunch of other classic devices to further expand my horizon. I love technology, regardless of brand or platform.

So yes, I've probably had more experience with fanboys than just about anyone here on OSNews. However, the things I've had to deal with are minute compared to the things people like Joshua Topolsky from The Verge has had to deal with.

The gist of this somewhat random collection of words: be happy OSNews is a relatively small, niche site. Sure, we get into our (in the grand scheme of things, pointless) debates, but at least virtually every regular commenter here displays a reasonable amount of intelligence and restraint. We could do a whole lot worse.

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RE[4]: Comment by maccouch
by majipoor on Wed 22nd Jan 2014 13:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by maccouch"
majipoor
Member since:
2009-01-22

I think you're mistaken. The last thing I know, the damages were lessened quite extensively in that retrial, and Wikipedia seems to agree with me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._v._Samsung_Electronics_Co.,...


In retiral, Apple asked $380M, Samsung proposed $50M, Jury decided to grant Apple $290M.

And you obviously need to add the $600M which where granted without Samsung appealing the decision and thus is not part of the retrial.

So the $1B initial amount became $890M and Samsung get $0 for its counter suit.

I don't know how one can consider this judgment as a fail for Apple and/or a win for Samsung, even with a lot of imagination ;)

This is however an example of a bias: if we weren't talking about Apple, the conclusion would be quite different, isn't it?

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RE[5]: Comment by maccouch
by cdude on Wed 22nd Jan 2014 14:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by maccouch"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Samsung still sells its products, makes money doing so, is on top. So, however you turn it around Apple's "nuclear war" wasn't that much of a success yet when looking at Android vs iOS market share. Apple's mission to beat Android out of business failed. You not agree?

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RE[6]: Comment by maccouch
by Nelson on Wed 22nd Jan 2014 14:33 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by maccouch"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

If Apple succeeds in an anti cloning provision for Samsung it could make it a lot harder for Samsung to provide users with a great experience which will definitely hurt Samsung.

Samsung doesn't really have as much to fear from Apple as it does to fear from the onslaught on cheap Chinese vendors as the market for smartphones matures.

What will happen here is that they will get squeezed in a pincer move by the low end, and by Apple in the high end which has a much more loyal following.

After the growth stops in the high end, they will almost assuredly be no match for Apple's extremely premium brand recognition and consumer loyalty.

This is analogous to the PC market where Apple is posting strong high end growth while other OEMs struggle to fight them at that price point.

I think this will be a bad year for Samsung as the only remaining high growth markets are chewed up by regional white box players.

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RE[6]: Comment by maccouch
by MOS6510 on Wed 22nd Jan 2014 14:44 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by maccouch"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

The nuclear war thing was a quote from Steve in his bio.

He probably said it or at least was quite upset over Google/Android that he said things to that extend.

We don´t know what happened after he counted to 10.

We do know that he had a number of strange ideas, bordering insannity sometimes, that his people talked him out of.

He wanted to spend every cent on fighting Android. I doubt his team would all agree that this would be a good idea and clever long term strategy. Steve would have been fired long before the last cent was spend. It was not his money to spend anyway.

Also Steve is no more and I don´t think Tim is the type to go on a holy mission in name of his former master. He´s much more down to earth than Steve was.

The fights Apple is putting up and the tactics it´s using is just how business is done these days and doesn´t involve the will of Steve.

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