Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jan 2014 11:54 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Nokia has just posted its results for the fourth quarter of 2013 - this is the last set of quarterly results which include the devices division, which has been sold to Microsoft. The parts that remain at Nokia are doing relatively well, but the holiday quarter for Lumia was a letdown.

Exactly how much of a letdown we can't say, since Nokia has - curiously, but tellingly - stopped reporting Lumia sales (update: Nokia has confirmed it sold 8.2 million Lumias). However, they do state that Lumia sales in the fourth (holiday) quarter were down from the third quarter, but up from the year-ago quarter, meaning they sold anywhere between 4.4 and 8.8 million Lumias during the holiday quarter of 2013. Tweakers' Arnoud Wokke has done the math, and concludes Nokia sold between 7.55 and 7.98 million Lumias (update: Nokia has confirmed it sold 8.2 million Lumias). Average selling price dropped again, most likely due to the popularity of the low-end 520. This gives Nokia a smartphone market share of about 2-3%.

All in all, the devices division, with its crashing Asha sales and struggling Lumia sales, was a clear stone around Nokia's neck, kept somewhat afloat by cash injections from Microsoft. However, those injections apparently weren't enough, and by now, we can conclude that Microsoft was effectively forced to step in and buy Nokia's devices division - lest someone else do it.

With this being the last quarter in which Nokia reports on its devices division, an era has come to an end. Now it's up to Microsoft to try and see if they can make something out of the Lumia brand - however, without the Nokia name, that's going to be a very tough sell.

Just ask the Surface department.

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RE: Cheap phones
by WereCatf on Thu 23rd Jan 2014 13:03 UTC in reply to "Cheap phones"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

This is the reality we geeks try to ignore. Kids don't know what OS the phones run (or at least don't think about that)


I'd say they're ignorant geeks who do that. Why should kids or your Average Jane and Joe care about such details? It means very little to them, they don't have any need to know the details or politics behind any single device or OS as long as the device suits their needs.

Just recently my sister spoke to me as she's trying to decide on what phone to get next, her current one is having some hardware issues and the warranty is long gone. She doesn't know what OS her current one runs, she doesn't know the difference between WP, Android, iOS and whatnot, she just wants something that can do what she wants, looks reasonably appealing and fits in the price-range she can throw at it.

Since I have no experience with iOS, WP or such all I could offer her was several Android-phones I figured would be suitable, but I did tell her to check if any of her friends have any Lumias and iPhones to try and see how she likes them before making any decisions.

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RE[2]: Cheap phones
by bnolsen on Thu 23rd Jan 2014 13:28 in reply to "RE: Cheap phones"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

Does she buy any apps which would help her with her decision.

Edited 2014-01-23 13:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Cheap phones
by WereCatf on Thu 23rd Jan 2014 13:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Cheap phones"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Does she buy any apps which would help her with her decision.


Nothing specific, no.

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RE[2]: Cheap phones
by WorknMan on Fri 24th Jan 2014 00:04 in reply to "RE: Cheap phones"
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2005-11-13

Why should kids or your Average Jane and Joe care about such details?


IDK, I figure if you're going to drop $200+ on a device, at least you should've done enough research to know what's running on it, and be able to reply with something other than a blank stare if somebody asks you the difference between iOS, Android, etc. Of course, these are the same people that used to drop $1,000+ on a PC, and if you asked them what was running on it, they'd say 'Windows 97'.

In other words, they're morons.

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RE[3]: Cheap phones
by unclefester on Fri 24th Jan 2014 03:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Cheap phones"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

IDK, I figure if you're going to drop $200+ on a device, at least you should've done enough research to know what's running on it, and be able to reply with something other than a blank stare if somebody asks you the difference between iOS, Android, etc.


People often spend $2000 on a "high quality" Swiss watch without understanding that is uses a common $2 quartz movement.

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