Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Jan 2014 20:17 UTC
Windows

One more tidbit about Windows 8.1 Update 1 from my aforementioned source: Update 1 may feature some of the work that Microsoft has been doing behind the scenes to reduce further the memory and disk space requirements for Windows. This would allow Windows 8.1 Update 1 to run on cheaper small tablets.

Windows 8.1 Update 1, screen shots of which leaked earlier this week, is expected to allow users to pin Metro-style/Windows Store apps to their desktop task bars. Thumbnail previews of these Metro-style apps will be available from the Desktop task bar, according to additional screen shots. Windows 8.1 Update 1 also is expected to include close boxes for Metro-style apps.

Seems like some welcome changes, but it's going to take a lot more for people to warm up to Metro. The biggest problem to me is that since there aren't any compelling Metro applications, there's simply no reason to put with its idiosyncrasies, especially on desktops. I cannot think of a single Metro application that is better than its desktop counterpart, nor is there any Metro application that is better than similar applications on competing platforms.

Developers need users, and users need developers. Right now - Metro seems to lacks both.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by nt_jerkface on Mon 27th Jan 2014 04:30 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

"Developers were livid" quantified by a few comments on a company blog. Amazing the delusional state you operate in.


I'm deluded? Windows 8 is a flop, Surface is a flop, WinRT is a flop, Windows Phone is a flop, Sinofsky and Ballmer have been fired and here you are questioning my connection to reality while trying to defend pieces of this failed floptastic strategy that has brought nothing but shame and embarrassment to Windows developers.

I have the track record when it comes to predicting Microsoft flops while you have the record of whoring for every single Microsft product and strategy even if the majority of Windows developers are calling it f---ing stupid.

Anyways here is what happened to the developers that went along with this stupid plan:
http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/354457/windows-8-developers-...

The rest of us remained livid and went back to developing Win32 and .NET software.

Everyone on this website can see what a shameless whore you are. I don't mind you being a whore for money/crack/whatever but I draw the line when you try to gloss over actions on the part of Microsoft that were clearly angering the majority of Windows developers.

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Mon 27th Jan 2014 09:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Posting an article written by a non developer asking a rhetorical that an extremely small slice (seriously, who the fuck uses pubCenter when the CPM is so terrible) of devs are impacted by low fill rates on an ad network, fill rate mind you that has since dramatically improved. This doesn't prove developers are livid, this proves that you are insane.

This little habbit you have about speaking for developers as if you're representative of their experience grows tired Mr. Jerkface. You use an irrelevant, EOLd UI framework from .NET2. You're like that annoying guy at work that rants on about WebForms. Let it go man.

90% of the Sinofsky mentions are literally coming from you in your attempt to cast him as some boogey man. You haven't published a single Store application and instead post the first link that Google throws at you.

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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by nt_jerkface on Tue 28th Jan 2014 00:09 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

This little habbit you have about speaking for developers as if you're representative of their experience grows tired Mr. Jerkface. You use an irrelevant, EOLd UI framework from .NET2.


What is your definition of irrelevant? I would estimate that WinRT to Winform jobs on dice are about 1:1000, and that is being generous. The business world uses Winforms heavily and there isn't the drive nor the resources to move everything to the web. WPF has mostly been ignored and Winforms are mature, not EOLd or depricated.

Maybe local Winform applications aren't trendy but the business world doesn't give a flying f--- about being trendy. They want software that works on a platform that they know will be around in 10 years. That's why .NET and Java are so popular while Windows 8/Metro have been rejected.

90% of the Sinofsky mentions are literally coming from you in your attempt to cast him as some boogey man.


I don't have to attempt to portray him negatively. He has already gained a reputation on his own as the douchebag responsible for Windows 8.

As for your comment about me not submitting to anything to the Windows store......why would I do that? It's a wasteland. Going to the casino would be provide a better risk/reward payoff and less embarrassing to boot. I would feel like a complete idiot if I told my managers that I was taking some time away from contracts to develop a Windows 8 app. That would reflect a serious lack of judgement. I'd rather save face and tell them I'm going to go blow a grand at the casino.

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