Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Jan 2014 22:40 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

In early January, while the rest of the consumer technology world at CES marveled at the sheer size of Samsung's upcoming Galaxy tablet, Google execs were dismayed by what they saw on the screen of the massive 12.1-inch slate - a fancy new user interface called Magazine UX.

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Multiple sources familiar with the companies' thinking say the two technology giants began hammering out a series of broad agreements at CES that would bring Samsung's view of Android in line with Google's own. The results of the talks, which have only just begun dribbling out to the public, also underscore the extent to which Google is exerting more of its influence to control its destiny in the Android open source world.

Dilemma. I don't like Google exerting control in this manner, but, on the other hand, anything that - for the love of god - makes Samsung stop building its own software for phones is a good thing. Tough call. Then again, this deal may also simply be another aspect of the big patent deal, indicating that this deal is about much more than patents alone.

In any case, the recent renewed collaboration between Google and Samsung seems to indicate that Samsung has little to no intention to move away from Android, and with Samsung still shipping exactly zero Tizen devices, I have little hope we'll ever see that platform jump front and centre.

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Math mistake
by ricegf on Thu 30th Jan 2014 11:56 UTC in reply to "Interesting "
ricegf
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2007-04-25

Your forgot the $2.35 billion sale of Home to Arris, plus they keep most of the patents they originally (over)valued at $5.5 billion (probably worth less than a billion now), they got some leverage in the Samsung deal, and may have traded Tizen's life for Nexus. Or not.

According to a Pacific Crest financial analyst quoted at http://www.zdnet.com/googles-motorola-mobility-detour-running-the-n... they also got $2.9 billion cash in the original deal, and may get to claim $2.4 billion more in tax loss assets. They may have avoided some patent litigation (and certainly countered the impression that Android was legally doomed). But they also lost operating money, of course. The analyst thought they may have broken even, but that seems overly generous.

Bottom line is that they probably paid between $1.6 and $4.0 billion for a set of standards-essential patents, some positive legal press, and some negotiating leverage. That's bad enough even when you do the math correctly, but let's at least do the math correctly!

Edited 2014-01-30 12:12 UTC

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RE: Math mistake
by Windows Sucks on Thu 30th Jan 2014 12:43 in reply to "Math mistake"
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2005-11-10

Your forgot the $2.35 billion sale of Home to Arris, plus they keep most of the patents they originally (over)valued at $5.5 billion (probably worth less than a billion now), they got some leverage in the Samsung deal, and may have traded Tizen's life for Nexus. Or not.

According to a Pacific Crest financial analyst quoted at http://www.zdnet.com/googles-motorola-mobility-detour-running-the-n... they also got $2.9 billion cash in the original deal, and may get to claim $2.4 billion more in tax loss assets. They may have avoided some patent litigation (and certainly countered the impression that Android was legally doomed). But they also lost operating money, of course. The analyst thought they may have broken even, but that seems overly generous.

Bottom line is that they probably paid between $1.6 and $4.0 billion for a set of standards-essential patents, some positive legal press, and some negotiating leverage. That's bad enough even when you do the math correctly, but let's at least do the math correctly!


You surely have better Math then I posted but that 5 billion in Patents was Googles own est of how much they felt they were worth, not anyone elses.

But you are right, that is better math.

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