Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Jan 2014 23:13 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is once again planning to alter the way its Start Screen works in Windows 8.1 Update 1. While the software giant originally released Windows 8.1 last year with an option to bypass the "Metro" interface at boot, sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that the upcoming "Update 1" for Windows 8.1 will enable this by default. Like many other changes in Update 1, we’re told the reason for the reversal is to improve the OS for keyboard and mouse users.

Wow, a touch interface does not work with a mouse and keyboard. Who saw that coming.

I expect photos of many people eating crow.

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RE: hmm
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 31st Jan 2014 00:21 UTC in reply to "hmm"
UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

I was actually about to argue the "stability" part; after all, hasn't Microsoft finally got the stability under control with the NT line?

I *thought* they did, based on my previous latest experiences with the OS (later versions of XP, 7). But then I remembered my new laptop, which I honestly forgot about the Windows side, because I never use it: ever since the 8.1 update, I have to be careful how quickly I try to take control and try to use it after logging in, because the damn thing will become unresponsive. And before that, blame it on third-party drivers or whatever (I don't care... it's still Windows), but I had some pretty bad crashes that lead to some glorified blue screens saying that Windows can't boot.

So, yes... ironically in the end I still have to fully agree with you... as I type this in openSUSE on my new laptop. It's funny how some things just NEVER change. It's really just the same crusty old OS with a shiny new interface forced onto it and the same old issues that I thought were fixed in later XP service packs, re-broken in Vista, and then (I *thought*) fixed again in Windows 7.

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RE[2]: hmm
by tidux on Fri 31st Jan 2014 01:56 in reply to "RE: hmm"
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2011-08-13

Those issues never get "fixed" because they're all the same underlying issue. Microsoft keeps the same binary driver API for years at a time, and yet these idiot hardware companies seem to forget how to write stable drivers every few years when the API changes.

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RE[3]: hmm
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 31st Jan 2014 03:40 in reply to "RE[2]: hmm"
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2006-12-05

More disturbing is that my main remaining technical problem:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-8.1-freezing-lockup-update...

...has been known about since at least November of last year, I first came across it in December when I set up the laptop, and it is almost February now... and as far as I know, there is no guaranteed "cure." There is no "official" fix that I could find or even acknowledgment from Microsoft for that matter, and if Windows Update is supposed to take care of it, then it sure as hell ain't doing its job.

All I can find are: "try uninstalling and reinstalling various hardware drivers" (no thanks, my current OS is running just fine, 8.1 is not worth that hassle for probably nothing...) or "disable fast start" (which sounds worthy of at least giving a try, I was leery about the "feature" to begin with actually, wouldn't surprise me if it's the problem since once the system has been up for 3 minutes and running fine chances are it won't lock up until next boot).

I fixed what I believe were the main hardware driver-related issues (system failing to come out of sleep mode after updating to 8.1 and requiring a hard shutdown/reboot as a result of bad graphics drivers and something else IIRC).

Edited 2014-01-31 03:42 UTC

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