Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Jan 2014 23:13 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is once again planning to alter the way its Start Screen works in Windows 8.1 Update 1. While the software giant originally released Windows 8.1 last year with an option to bypass the "Metro" interface at boot, sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that the upcoming "Update 1" for Windows 8.1 will enable this by default. Like many other changes in Update 1, we’re told the reason for the reversal is to improve the OS for keyboard and mouse users.

Wow, a touch interface does not work with a mouse and keyboard. Who saw that coming.

I expect photos of many people eating crow.

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Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 31st Jan 2014 01:17 UTC
Drumhellar
Member since:
2005-07-12

Even bringing back the traditional Start Menu isn't likely to bring me back to Windows - I abandoned it because it's becoming more and more of a pain to use without tying everything to a Live account. The Stat Screen was inconsequential.

I like my Live.com mail, but I no longer want my computer tied to it.

Fix that, Microsoft (Or, at the very least, stop going farther in that direction), and maybe I'll go back.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by Spiron on Fri 31st Jan 2014 05:43 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
Spiron Member since:
2011-03-08

So just like MOST consumer OS's these days. You have to run pretty far these days to get to an OS which DOESN'T integrate online accounts from someone or other. KDE is the only major desktop that I can think of that doesn't want you to integrate services and I may still be wrong about that as I haven't used KDE much in the last year

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by BluenoseJake on Fri 31st Jan 2014 13:14 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

You don't need you tie your live account to Windows 8 or 8.1. That has never been true. You can associate a local account with your live account, or just use the live account, or just use the local account.

This is one of the biggest fallacies of Windows 8, and I have no idea where it comes from.

Edited 2014-01-31 13:14 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 31st Jan 2014 18:56 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

I know you don't have to, but it's a pain, because everything now wants a live account, and if you want to use it without a live account, the button you need to press is in a different location at a different step in the setup process every time.

Install Windows 8, and it's at one part of the account setup process. Install the 8.1 update, and it's different text (which is even less clear on what it means) at a different spot of the install process.

Getting the 8.1 update without the live account is a pain, too.

I used to be cool with that - it was kinda nice being so linked up. There are a lot of conveniences.

Then my mother got her email account hacked, and I started thinking, what would happen if my Live.com account got hacked and the password changed? I wouldn't be able to use my computer. At the same time, Microsoft looks like it's moving more and more to having a Live account required for several tasks.

Nope.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by dionicio on Fri 31st Jan 2014 15:39 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
dionicio Member since:
2006-07-12

Live Account - The 'Store'.
This are just two more reasons Windows
is no more an educative platform
:/

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by WereCatf on Fri 31st Jan 2014 15:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Live Account - The 'Store'.
This are just two more reasons Windows
is no more an educative platform
:/


How does the existence of Windows Store or MS Live! - accounts somehow make Windows not "an educative platform" if it was that in the previous Windows-version? Neither the Store or the Live! - accounts in any way or form prevent people from using Windows to learn and study, nor do either one of them really change how you use Windows as wrt. to Windows 7, for example. Metro does try to change how one uses Windows, but alas, that's not what you complained about.

No, it just sounds you want to bash Windows/Microsoft and just wrote whatever excuse you could come up with.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by BluenoseJake on Fri 31st Jan 2014 21:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

You could always install software the traditional way. The only reason you need the store is if you run Metro apps, and really, you need a Google Account to access the Play Store, and you need an Apple account to access the Apple store, why is MS requiring the same thing (to manage purchases, and access to services) make it any less of an "educative platform" (whatever that means?)

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