Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Jan 2014 23:13 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is once again planning to alter the way its Start Screen works in Windows 8.1 Update 1. While the software giant originally released Windows 8.1 last year with an option to bypass the "Metro" interface at boot, sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that the upcoming "Update 1" for Windows 8.1 will enable this by default. Like many other changes in Update 1, we’re told the reason for the reversal is to improve the OS for keyboard and mouse users.

Wow, a touch interface does not work with a mouse and keyboard. Who saw that coming.

I expect photos of many people eating crow.

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RE[2]: It's really not so bad...
by novad on Fri 31st Jan 2014 07:38 UTC in reply to "RE: It's really not so bad..."
novad
Member since:
2010-06-10

Calm down a bit. I just gave my opionion... If you don't agree we can discuss. ;)

I don't remember that I've restricted my comments to home users. GPOs indeed arn't very usefull to homeusers as are every IT Asset Management tool, but in enterprise GPOs are vital.

You had a problem with a guy who missconfigured a GPO? Ok... That's bad... Really. But the problem is not due to the technology of GPOs itself. It's due the guy who missconfigured it and deployed it without testing.

Please.. Tell me how you would manage an IT infrastructure of thousands or even hundreds of workplaces without GPOs (or an army of helpdesk workers). There is no usable equivalent in the Mac or Nux world. It's as simple as that.

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p13. Member since:
2005-07-10

O rly?

Have you heard of puppet?
And OD on mac?

Edited 2014-01-31 08:07 UTC

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novad Member since:
2010-06-10

Yes I've heard of that and BTW, I've used Puppet.

It's lightyears away from GPOs and what you can do with them.

Let me return the question. Have you allready used GPOs? I mean in a real production environment?

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Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Please.. Tell me how you would manage an IT infrastructure of thousands or even hundreds of workplaces without GPOs (or an army of helpdesk workers).

I'd use one of Chef, Puppet, CFEngine, Salt or possibly even Ansible.
There is no usable equivalent in the Mac or Nux world. It's as simple as that.

Stuff like Chef & Puppet are far more flexible and powerful than GPOs.

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novad Member since:
2010-06-10

"There is no usable equivalent in the Mac or Nux world. It's as simple as that.

Stuff like Chef & Puppet are far more flexible and powerful than GPOs.
"

The keyword here is usable. Or maybe I should have said usable in a convenient way. Looks like I've offended some people with that.

These tools are powerful it's true. You can dig quiet deeply in system configurations but what's about the time you need for that?

As another guy here has said. A lot is preformatted in GPOs. That's fine and good but that doesn't restrict you to those preconfigured settings. When you want to setup something that isn't covered by GPOs and/or additional ADMX files (And that doesn't leave a lot) you can still do whatever you want with direct registry tweaks or scripts



Puppet are far more flexible and powerful than GPOs.


Please tell me one single thing you weren’t able to setup through:
- An "out of the box" GPO setting (with or without additional ADMX)
- A registry key (Deployed by GPO)
- A startup/logon/logoff/shutdown script (Also called by GPO)

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

I didn't add the statement from the tech that deployed the GPO.
'But it worked where I was working last month'.

I certainly don't have to manage networks of 100 users let alone thousands. I am just far too frequently on the receiving end of GPO's that totally mess up the systems I am responsible for.

Imagine the case where you have a system that has been running for months and suddenly it goes into meltdown and production stops dead. What do YOU do then?

Yeah, I'm bitter because the dorks that craft the GPO's seem to be immune from retribution. Escalate the problem to their management and suddenly all your access has been revoked. Am I dreaming? Nope it happened to one system I worked on in Texas.

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novad Member since:
2010-06-10

Imagine the case where you have a system that has been running for months and suddenly it goes into meltdown and production stops dead. What do YOU do then?


I would probably be very upset/angry/disapointed

Yeah, I'm bitter because the dorks that craft the GPO's seem to be immune from retribution. Escalate the problem to their management and suddenly all your access has been revoked. Am I dreaming? Nope it happened to one system I worked on in Texas.


That's really bad. I understand your frustration. But once again, this has nothing to do with the technology itself but with those who implement it.

Would you design new breaks for a car and go into mass production without even testing it? Let the users (sorry drivers) test it.

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