Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Jan 2014 23:13 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is once again planning to alter the way its Start Screen works in Windows 8.1 Update 1. While the software giant originally released Windows 8.1 last year with an option to bypass the "Metro" interface at boot, sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that the upcoming "Update 1" for Windows 8.1 will enable this by default. Like many other changes in Update 1, we’re told the reason for the reversal is to improve the OS for keyboard and mouse users.

Wow, a touch interface does not work with a mouse and keyboard. Who saw that coming.

I expect photos of many people eating crow.

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RE[8]: It's really not so bad...
by novad on Fri 31st Jan 2014 12:00 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: It's really not so bad..."
novad
Member since:
2010-06-10

First of all. OD CAN do all of the things you can do with GPOs, and more. Look into managed preferences.


I think we'll agree on the fact we disagree on that... But hey. It's you're right.

Furthermore, who said anything about scripts? All relevant settings on linux machines are stored in RCs and dotfiles.


I spoke about scripts explaining GPOs are not mandatory and that all they do could be done by scripts. It was a way to show that preconfigured stuff is sometimes just convenient.

And as for things not being preconfigured ... well ... In most cases, i consider this an advantage. All that is needed is docs, knowhow and time.

Somehow, i get the impression i'm talking to a point and click "admin".


Who said that when you use GPO's you can no longer dig in the roots of a system? If a setting isn't included "out of the box" in a GPO you can set the according registry (By GPO is once again most convenient way). If it require complex tasks you build the appropriate script. It's not being a point and click admin... It's much more using the right tool for the right stuff. Personal preferences are not relevant here.

If people accept to pay you to live out your passion it's wunderful. I'm really happy for you. But the people who pay me want results at the end of the day. Things must work quickly and without errors. The keyword there is time...

The worst thing when I have to go to a customer is when his infrastructure has been built up by a whatever fanboy (MS / Apple / Nux). You can be sure that the solutions that have been adopted are just crap.

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p13. Member since:
2005-07-10

Instead of actually coming up with facts, you dismiss my points and agree to disagree ... fine.

Not only do my customers pay me, but i generally save tens of thousands in ridiculous license fees.

You are being incredibly short-sighted with your remarks.

Time ... ah yes ... time.
The time it costs to fix broken exchange/IIS/AD/MSSQL/whatever. Time well spent, right?

If our solutions are so "crappy", then why does most of the internet run on them?

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novad Member since:
2010-06-10

Instead of actually coming up with facts, you dismiss my points and agree to disagree ... fine.


Yes, exactly... Does it makes sens to list up the thousands of settings each technology is able to manage (or not) in a stupid pissing contest? I leave that to the fanboy you seem to be.

Not only do my customers pay me, but i generally save tens of thousands in ridiculous license fees.


License costs for the usage of a GPO? Ok... Funny. Stupid but funny.

You are being incredibly short-sighted with your remarks.


People I work for don't share your opinion. And these people represent quite big entities. I'm just pragmatic, not a brain dead zealot for technology X or Y.

Time ... ah yes ... time.
The time it costs to fix broken exchange/IIS/AD/MSSQL/whatever. Time well spent, right?


If there is one short-sighted view it's this one:

Don't use the solution I use --> You're stupid
Use an Industry standard --> You're stupid

You take as fact that using a well built solution makes it automatically a limiting solution. That pushing configurations through GPO are not as safe or efficient as by hand-written procedures. Ok... There's not much to add to this soooo intelligent comment.

If our solutions are so "crappy", then why does most of the internet run on them?


Oh right... I forgot that the whole industry only uses webservers (Where Nux is well implemented). Or do you want me to use Puppy in a 100% MS infrastructure?

P.S: Good continuation with someone else. For me our "conversation" is finished.

Edited 2014-01-31 16:01 UTC

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