Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Jan 2014 23:13 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is once again planning to alter the way its Start Screen works in Windows 8.1 Update 1. While the software giant originally released Windows 8.1 last year with an option to bypass the "Metro" interface at boot, sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that the upcoming "Update 1" for Windows 8.1 will enable this by default. Like many other changes in Update 1, we’re told the reason for the reversal is to improve the OS for keyboard and mouse users.

Wow, a touch interface does not work with a mouse and keyboard. Who saw that coming.

I expect photos of many people eating crow.

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RE[9]: It is a shame
by acobar on Sun 2nd Feb 2014 23:32 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: It is a shame"
acobar
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2005-11-15

You mean OneNote MX? Sorry, the last version I tried was inferior on features and the interface was not as useful as the regular you would find on "classical" version when you are using a keyboard and mouse, which is the point on this thread. Same is true for the other apps you enlisted.

As many people said, metro apps may be fine for primarily touch devices, like tablets and phones, but they really work against you on computers with large screens with mouse and keyboard if what you do is more than "consume" media, again like many already said.

As a side note, WinRT does not enforce the use of a Metro interface the last time I checked it so, with the exception of "Live Tiles" and "Touch support", perhaps, the other things have more to do with WinRT? (I am asking because the last time I read something about it, that was what I got the impression the author said)

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RE[10]: It is a shame
by Nelson on Mon 3rd Feb 2014 02:30 in reply to "RE[9]: It is a shame"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

You mean OneNote MX? Sorry, the last version I tried was inferior on features and the interface was not as useful as the regular you would find on "classical" version when you are using a keyboard and mouse, which is the point on this thread. Same is true for the other apps you enlisted.


Difference of opinion, I find them to be pretty equivalent. OneNote MX performs well enough for me that I never open the desktop version, and behaves better in various snapped states.


As many people said, metro apps may be fine for primarily touch devices, like tablets and phones, but they really work against you on computers with large screens with mouse and keyboard if what you do is more than "consume" media, again like many already said.


I think that's a truism that many here repeat and take for granted, but in my experience it hasn't necessarily been true.

I think the radial menu in OneNote is straight up better UI design for Mouse and Keyboard, period.


As a side note, WinRT does not enforce the use of a Metro interface the last time I checked it so, with the exception of "Live Tiles" and "Touch support", perhaps, the other things have more to do with WinRT? (I am asking because the last time I read something about it, that was what I got the impression the author said)


When I speak of WinRT I mean the totality of it. The library, the process manager, the broker, and the UI platform it runs through.

While Desktop apps can access some WinRT APIs, its just some, not all.

Plus Desktop apps dont get the appcontainer sandboxing so they're less reliable.

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