Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Feb 2014 00:03 UTC
Windows

The reason this happened is that while Sinofsky had the maniacal power and force of will of a Steve Jobs, he lacked Jobs' best gift: An innate understanding of good design. Windows 8 is not well-designed. It's a mess. But Windows 8 is a bigger problem than that. Windows 8 is a disaster in every sense of the word.

This is not open to debate, is not part of some cute imaginary world where everyone's opinion is equally valid or whatever. Windows 8 is a disaster. Period.

Paul Thurrott shares some of his inside information, and it's pretty damning. According to him, Sinofsky's team - even up to his major supporter, Steve Ballmer - were removed from the company after it became clear just much of a disaster Windows 8 was.

I agree with his conclusion: razor-sharp focus on productivity, Windows' number one use. The desktop side of Windows 8.x is pretty good as it is, and has been progressively getting better with every update. I would go one step further than Thurrott. Windows 9 (desktops/laptops) and Windows Metro (tablets/smartphones). These two can still be one product (e.g., connect a keyboard/mouse/monitor to your x86 smartphone and it opens the desktop), but they should be entirely separate environments.

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RE: this is what is happening:
by WereCatf on Mon 10th Feb 2014 01:19 UTC in reply to "this is what is happening:"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Like in any other desktop OS, the real innovation is over, desktops are a dead technology.


Don't be ridiculous. Just because there are no new totally-flashy features don't mean they're "dead." Desktop OSes are now considered mature and that means development related to them is mostly refinement of features as opposed to throwing in a heap of new features.

All the creativity forces are centred in mobile OS like Android or iOS.


Hardly. All I see is them following the same steps as desktop OSes did, with addition of heaps of stuff every major release just to see what sticks. Also, don't forget that touch-based smartphone OSes don't have all the decades of development behind them that the desktop OSes do; of course there's going to be much more stuff happening there since it's still so raw!

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allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

"Like in any other desktop OS, the real innovation is over, desktops are a dead technology.


Don't be ridiculous. Just because there are no new totally-flashy features don't mean they're "dead." Desktop OSes are now considered mature and that means development related to them is mostly refinement of features as opposed to throwing in a heap of new features.

All the creativity forces are centred in mobile OS like Android or iOS.


Hardly. All I see is them following the same steps as desktop OSes did, with addition of heaps of stuff every major release just to see what sticks. Also, don't forget that touch-based smartphone OSes don't have all the decades of development behind them that the desktop OSes do; of course there's going to be much more stuff happening there since it's still so raw!
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Desktop OS is a commodity. Whatever features MS is trying to slap on their desktop, this is primarily for the services/apps that will run on top of it. Take note that Microsoft and its customers could become competitors in this area.

What Microsoft is trying to do is to sell you everything, from the raw material(Desktop os) up to the services/apps. With the release of Windows 8 along with their new vision, they now try to sell you everything + everything making Microsoft a direct competitor to their customers. This is fine with Apple, since Apple is only selling one thing: an iDevice. In fact, Apple does allow us to run their OS on non-apple hardware. Microsoft can't have both.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

In fact, Apple does allow us to run their OS on non-apple hardware.


Since when? I have not heard of Apple changing their stance on this.

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