Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Feb 2014 00:03 UTC
Windows

The reason this happened is that while Sinofsky had the maniacal power and force of will of a Steve Jobs, he lacked Jobs' best gift: An innate understanding of good design. Windows 8 is not well-designed. It's a mess. But Windows 8 is a bigger problem than that. Windows 8 is a disaster in every sense of the word.

This is not open to debate, is not part of some cute imaginary world where everyone's opinion is equally valid or whatever. Windows 8 is a disaster. Period.

Paul Thurrott shares some of his inside information, and it's pretty damning. According to him, Sinofsky's team - even up to his major supporter, Steve Ballmer - were removed from the company after it became clear just much of a disaster Windows 8 was.

I agree with his conclusion: razor-sharp focus on productivity, Windows' number one use. The desktop side of Windows 8.x is pretty good as it is, and has been progressively getting better with every update. I would go one step further than Thurrott. Windows 9 (desktops/laptops) and Windows Metro (tablets/smartphones). These two can still be one product (e.g., connect a keyboard/mouse/monitor to your x86 smartphone and it opens the desktop), but they should be entirely separate environments.

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The Modern PC.
by theTSF on Mon 10th Feb 2014 15:54 UTC
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The problem is Microsoft is not getting what the landscape for the Modern PC is. It isn't like the old days where everyone has and needs a PC, to do every little task out there. We have tablets for that now. The PC has grown up to be more serious of a device. Software Development, CAD, Crunching Numbers, Graphics Design, and still High End Games. For the most part the PC isn't needed for Grandma, or Liberal Arts majors to write a paper, or even browsing the web and playing simple games. The PC today is needed for professionals, and we need an OS Designed for professionals. Less cutesy stuff and more focus on performance. Better usage of multiple/larger displays. Being able to trim down to be a lean mean calculating machine, improved task management, and windows placements and resizing. Heck I am still want to re-size any window and give me an option to shrink the information so it fits in the smaller window.

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RE: The Modern PC.
by ezraz on Mon 10th Feb 2014 20:26 in reply to "The Modern PC."
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

The problem is Microsoft is not getting what the landscape for the Modern PC is. It isn't like the old days where everyone has and needs a PC, to do every little task out there. We have tablets for that now. The PC has grown up to be more serious of a device. Software Development, CAD, Crunching Numbers, Graphics Design, and still High End Games. For the most part the PC isn't needed for Grandma, or Liberal Arts majors to write a paper, or even browsing the web and playing simple games. The PC today is needed for professionals, and we need an OS Designed for professionals. Less cutesy stuff and more focus on performance. Better usage of multiple/larger displays. Being able to trim down to be a lean mean calculating machine, improved task management, and windows placements and resizing. Heck I am still want to re-size any window and give me an option to shrink the information so it fits in the smaller window.


I totally agree with this. WIndows and OSX should be the future big screen OS's. The 90's are long gone. Everything has looked good on a laptop or a 21" monitor for years.

It still comes down to input method and screen view distance. The new Mac Pro desktop at least builds in multiple 4k and thunderbird2 outputs so you could really put together a monster system using LCDs or projection, and you can power it all quietly with a single fan.

I haven't upgraded to mavericks yet to see the new multimonitor features, but that, along with multitouch gestures on the desktop (either trackpad or sensor) is where the next 5 years of the desktop is. Monster workstations with all kinds of video and routing, as small and quiet as possible. Storage is probably external or SAN.

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RE: The Modern PC.
by ezraz on Mon 10th Feb 2014 20:28 in reply to "The Modern PC."
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

The problem is Microsoft is not getting what the landscape for the Modern PC is. It isn't like the old days where everyone has and needs a PC, to do every little task out there. We have tablets for that now. The PC has grown up to be more serious of a device. Software Development, CAD, Crunching Numbers, Graphics Design, and still High End Games. For the most part the PC isn't needed for Grandma, or Liberal Arts majors to write a paper, or even browsing the web and playing simple games. The PC today is needed for professionals, and we need an OS Designed for professionals. Less cutesy stuff and more focus on performance. Better usage of multiple/larger displays. Being able to trim down to be a lean mean calculating machine, improved task management, and windows placements and resizing. Heck I am still want to re-size any window and give me an option to shrink the information so it fits in the smaller window.


I totally agree with this. WIndows and OSX should be the future big screen OS's. The 90's are long gone. Everything has looked good on a laptop or a 21" monitor for years.

It still comes down to input method and screen view distance. The new Mac Pro desktop at least builds in multiple 4k and thunderbird2 outputs so you could really put together a monster system using LCDs or projection, and you can power it all quietly with a single fan.

I haven't upgraded to mavericks yet to see the new multimonitor features, but that, along with multitouch gestures on the desktop (either trackpad or sensor) is where the next 5 years of the desktop is. Monster workstations with all kinds of video and routing, as small and quiet as possible. Storage is probably external or SAN.

Reply Parent Score: 1