Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Feb 2014 16:43 UTC
Internet & Networking

When Gabriel Weinberg launched a search engine in 2008, plenty of people thought he was insane. How could DuckDuckGo, a tiny, Philadelphia-based startup, go up against Google? One way, he wagered, was by respecting user privacy. Six years later, we're living in the post-Snowden era, and the idea doesn't seem so crazy.

In fact, DuckDuckGo is exploding.

I wonder what the future holds for DuckDuckGo. Will there be a point where people leave Google Search completely, instead of just casting curious glances at DDG?

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Counterpoint
by jazman777 on Thu 20th Feb 2014 21:20 UTC
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RE: Counterpoint
by Morgan on Thu 20th Feb 2014 23:30 in reply to "Counterpoint"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I use http://startpage.com almost exclusively, not necessarily for the privacy benefits, but more so that I'm not being put into Google's bubble. I used to use DDG but when I realized the actual results were worse than Bing and Google most of the time, I looked elsewhere. Startpage.com is where I ended up.

I do still have to search Google from time to time, but I'll open a private browsing window so I'm not being "bubbled". Though, I still suspect they use IP addresses to tailor search results as well.

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RE[2]: Counterpoint
by Straylight on Fri 21st Feb 2014 02:51 in reply to "RE: Counterpoint"
Straylight Member since:
2006-06-15

I'll have to check out starpage.com, I've also been trying to avoid be tracked online. I agree that DDG's search resorts leave something to be desired but I'm hooked on on the bangers available with DDG. !w, !g, !gi for image searching, it's too convenient. I was just checking startpage's site and looked through their advanced search options and did not see anything, do they have anything similar?

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RE[2]: Counterpoint
by ricegf on Fri 21st Feb 2014 11:32 in reply to "RE: Counterpoint"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Privacy is a valid and serious concern, but switching from Google to SP or DDG would involve a significant compromise in level of service IMHO.

For example, I just typed "medal count" into all 3 services to see if the "better answers" theme of the article actually worked.

SP gave me a plain list of links, with nbcolympics.com/medals at the top.

DDG gave me the top 3 Olympics-related news articles, a link to watch the Olympics live on-line, and a plain list of links with nbcolympics.com/medals at the top.

Google gave me a graphic table of the top seven medal countries, with columns for gold, silver, bronze, and totals; the Olympics dates and host cities; today's competition schedule, slidable across all days; recent #sochi2014 tweets; a link to watch the Olympics live on-line; the top 3 Olympics-related news articles; and then the plain list of links.

It's like being addicted to cigarettes. I know the NSA issue is deadly to my privacy, but it's really hard to break the rush of instant knowledge. *sigh*

Edited 2014-02-21 11:37 UTC

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RE: Counterpoint
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 21st Feb 2014 00:35 in reply to "Counterpoint"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

That is a good point. However, its kind of crazy to assume that you just need to move it to the EU and everything is fine.

There are actually legal things that the NSA has to follow in order to do what it does. Now those might be a rubber stamp in many cases, but its still a process that is being documented ( even if it is top secret).

Now, what are the protections from the NSA for data outside of the US? None what-so-ever. Its perfectly legal ( in the US who's laws they have to obey), for them to do what every they want to get the data they need with now oversight.

Furthermore, EU countries are not saints either. They very well might have their own data center embedded spooks looking at the data. I don't think their governments are objectively any more free. They're all messed up in different ways.

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RE[2]: Counterpoint
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 21st Feb 2014 12:27 in reply to "RE: Counterpoint"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

That is a good point. However, its kind of crazy to assume that you just need to move it to the EU and everything is fine.


Or even any better:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/europe-wont-save-you-why...

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