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X11, Window Managers

CDE 2.2.1 has been released on March 1. The release includes various bugfixes, a NetBSD port and improvement for UTF-8 locales with a new Greek UTF-8 translation.

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RE[2]: CDE?
by kurkosdr on Tue 4th Mar 2014 13:08 UTC in reply to "RE: CDE?"
kurkosdr
Member since:
2011-04-11

And finally, a favorite feature of mine, no taskbar. I stinkin' hate taskbars! ;)

A classic case of one man's meat...

I love taskbars, tolerate dockbars (aka what Ubuntu has), and don't like the "iconify" concept Solaris has, where in order to find a window that is under a maximized window you have to type keyboard shortcuts or mimimize the maxmimized window on top.

On Solaris, I always avoided maximizing windows and tried to keep all windows visible.

See, I 've learned the click somewhere->go to the window you want procedure.

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RE[3]: CDE?
by wigry on Tue 4th Mar 2014 13:59 in reply to "RE[2]: CDE?"
wigry Member since:
2008-10-09

Yes the "Iconify Windows" concept is the one you either love or hate. You don't have to use CDE to see it. Just start up X-Org with default TWM and there you have it - the iconified windows. Once you get used to it, it becomes quite productive as you have a whole desktop to clutter with icons of minimized windows. and none of the application icons are one the way ;) That of course assumes that the default state is all windows minimized and when you need something you activate that particular window. When done, minimize it and select another window. Indeed quite different workflow.

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RE[4]: CDE?
by zizban on Tue 4th Mar 2014 14:21 in reply to "RE[3]: CDE?"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

I prefer the iconified windows myself. First on Olvwm, then MWM and now CDE. I find it an efficient way to work, however it is not for everyone but CDE will not get a taskbar.

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RE[3]: CDE?
by tidux on Tue 4th Mar 2014 17:14 in reply to "RE[2]: CDE?"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

In Window Maker, iconified windows can still be cycled through with Alt-Tab. What's the big fuss?

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RE[3]: CDE?
by drcouzelis on Tue 4th Mar 2014 18:00 in reply to "RE[2]: CDE?"
drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

I don't like the "iconify" concept Solaris has, where in order to find a window that is under a maximized window you have to type keyboard shortcuts or mimimize the maxmimized window on top.

Middle click on the title bar to push the window "back" (including full screen windows).

On Solaris, I always avoided maximizing windows and tried to keep all windows visible. See, I 've learned the click somewhere -> go to the window you want procedure.

That's cool. It sounds like your method of using a computer is fast and efficient too. ;)

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RE[4]: CDE?
by kurkosdr on Wed 5th Mar 2014 11:38 in reply to "RE[3]: CDE?"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

Middle click on the title bar to push the window "back" (including full screen windows).

Thanks. Although I don't have a CDE to try it because we upgraded from Solaris 9 to Debian.

I also believe there is a "show desktop" keyboard shortcut in CDE, but I don't know what it is. Showing desktop would be much easier than pushing back all maximized windows when having one editor window at the back and 4 maxmimized windows on top of it, lol.

This is a classic case of knowing your audience. Sun thought people buying a Solaris workstation are professionals who wouldn't mind reading a bit about how the window manager worked, so not everything has to be a click away. Microsoft thought that oridnary Windows users don't read window manager guides (a correct assumption IMO) so let's put everything within a click's reach, taskbar it is.

PS: What I used to do with a new maximized window in CDE is move it a bit to the right, so all windows below are visible, lol (yes, CDE allows you to move maximized windows)

Edited 2014-03-05 11:47 UTC

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