Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Mar 2014 23:33 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

The Mozilla Foundation has begun an investigation after tech juggernaut Dell appeared to be asking customers to pay GBP 16.25 ($27) to install its free web browser Firefox on newly purchased Dell kit.

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RE[2]: The "source"
by umccullough on Thu 6th Mar 2014 22:20 UTC in reply to "RE: The "source""
umccullough
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2006-01-26

That is: Dell does something explicitly disallowed by Mozilla's trademark policy.


I suspect Dell will argue that it's fair use of the trademark in this case since they are not selling the software, but the service of installing it.

I also suspect Dell will end up changing this so that the "charge" is clearly indicated as a "customized software installation" charge rather than for Firefox itself.

I've "charged" people to install Firefox before - well, similar to this. If I go to a business and install Firefox on 10 computers, I'm going to charge them for the time it takes me to do so.

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RE[3]: The "source"
by Alfman on Thu 6th Mar 2014 23:19 in reply to "RE[2]: The "source""
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2011-01-28

umccullough,

I've "charged" people to install Firefox before - well, similar to this. If I go to a business and install Firefox on 10 computers, I'm going to charge them for the time it takes me to do so.


That's funny, I'm surprised a business would pay consultants to do that. Regardless, there's still a difference in that you (edit: probably) weren't actually distributing firefox yourself, whereas Dell is.


I also suspect Dell will end up changing this so that the "charge" is clearly indicated as a "customized software installation" charge rather than for Firefox itself.


I don't believe Dell would continue distributing Firefox for a fee against Mozilla's wishes should Mozilla ask them to stop. I predict they'll either stop charging a fee, or stop distributing it.

Well either way, this is a bit of a rhetorical debate as none of us are really going to be the least bit impacted by it. I find it humorous that this trivial little article has 77 comments and counting ;)

Edited 2014-03-06 23:26 UTC

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RE[4]: The "source"
by umccullough on Fri 7th Mar 2014 01:14 in reply to "RE[3]: The "source""
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26


"I've "charged" people to install Firefox before - well, similar to this. If I go to a business and install Firefox on 10 computers, I'm going to charge them for the time it takes me to do so.


That's funny, I'm surprised a business would pay consultants to do that. Regardless, there's still a difference in that you (edit: probably) weren't actually distributing firefox yourself, whereas Dell is.
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Well, said service starts with: "Our machines are showing popups and we think they're infected with viruses!".

And the services rendered usually include installation of Chrome and/or Firefox as the default browser.

To be clear, if someone called me and said: "I want to install firefox", I would not run down there and charge them for the privilege of doing it for them, but I would certainly count it toward any time I spend working on their machines. Just like Dell would likely charge for additional time spent configuring a computer being built for one of their customers.

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