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Stuff such as United's new offering generally arrives on Android sooner or later, and there are whole categories of apps - such as alternative keyboards - that are Android-only.

Much of the time, I'm an Android user myself, so I'm happy when something is available for Google's operating system and sorry when it isn't. But despite the fact that iOS's market share is much smaller than that of Android, and has been for years, Apple devices are still nearly always first in line when a major company or hot startup has to decide where to allocate its development resources. That's a dynamic that pundits keep telling us makes no sense - but it's happening, and its an enormous competitive advantage for Apple. 'Sounds like a victory to me.

iOS has won the application wars.

Sure, you have to disregard those gazilion Android applications iOS could never support (keyboards, launchers, SMS applications, browsers, task switchers, lock screens, etc., and so on, and so forth), but if you do that, then yes, iOS has won.

The tortoise is faster than the hare. Sure, you have to cut off the hare's legs first, but then, sure, yeah, the tortoise is faster.

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who pays the most?
by REM2000 on Sat 15th Mar 2014 08:32 UTC
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I thought i read somewhere that on average iOS users pay more, buy more apps than android users? Sorry i can't seem to find it.

I think there is also a mindshare on iOS that whenever anyone thinks mobile phone apps they instantly think of the iPhone.

The other perception is that a greater number of android users over iPhone users pirate apps.

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RE: who pays the most?
by ricegf on Sat 15th Mar 2014 15:22 in reply to "who pays the most?"
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The other perception is that a greater number of android users over iPhone users pirate apps.


Is that really a perception? I have a really hard time finding a general interest app that lacks a free version, and those that aren't are usually $0.99 or so. Why would anybody bother to violate copyright on those?

Once I've used and enjoyed a free app for a while (in my case, Ruzzle and Words With Friends come to mind), I pay the nice people my $0.99 or whatever, and skip the ads.

A few million here, a few million there, and pretty soon we're talking real money!

So can you point to a major news source for the perception that Android apps are subject to frequent copyright violation? Or even hijacking a ship at sea, for that matter?

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RE[2]: who pays the most?
by Lobotomik on Mon 17th Mar 2014 08:37 in reply to "RE: who pays the most?"
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2006-01-03

That is something I find maddening in Androids app market. Practically ALL the apps are "free", but that "free" comes with strings attached: be bombarded by publicity, be constantly pressed into in-app purchases, suffer unstated feature limitations... Very often, you can get the full app after paying a ransom, but is is in general impossible to know how much will that be or exactly what does it imply until you have already installed the pseudo-free app and suffered its limitations.

I wrote an email to Google customer service saying it should be compulsory for apps in the store to state the cost for non-free and the limitations for free, but I guess I have been ignored.

This is not helped by the fact that hordes of Android users spew all sorts of bile at being "ripped off" when an app costs all of $5, and still value apps as shit when features are missing in the for-free version.

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RE: who pays the most?
by tanishaj on Sat 15th Mar 2014 15:45 in reply to "who pays the most?"
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I thought i read somewhere that on average iOS users pay more, buy more apps than android users? Sorry i can't seem to find it.


I have seen those numbers as well but not in a while. Perhaps that is because it is becoming less true. Then again, I have seen numbers that claim that BlackBerry users pay more than either Android or iOS. That is not what matters.

In a world where Android devices outnumber iOS devices three to one, Android devs will bring in twice as much revenue even if iOS users spend twice as much per capita. That is just math.

I think there is also a mindshare on iOS that whenever anyone thinks mobile phone apps they instantly think of the iPhone.


I would agree. I also predict that this will change. In fact, I think it is already getting rare that people think ONLY of the iPhone. After all, doesn't it make sense to think of the phone YOU have and that your friends have. Increasingly, those phones run Android.

The other perception is that a greater number of android users over iPhone users pirate apps.


Again, I would agree. I have this perception myself. Windows certainly sees more piracy than OS X but which platform attracts more developers? Again, it is just math.

Use the same three to one ratio of Android to iOS devices. Even if 50% of Android users pirate and 0% of iOS ones do (which is obviously not right), there are still 50% more non-pirating (paying) Android customers than there are iOS customers.

I believe that Android will eventually outsell iOS eight to one or more. Apple will almost certainly always be a profitable niche for developers but it is just plain crazy to claim that iOS has won the market.

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RE: who pays the most?
by l3v1 on Sun 16th Mar 2014 14:18 in reply to "who pays the most?"
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I thought i read somewhere that on average iOS users pay more, buy more apps than android users? Sorry i can't seem to find it.

That might have been true for a while, until the Android userbase reached high enough numbers. The - not totally incorrect - perception was, that one can set higher prices if the app is for iOS and users will pay for it if it's any good. However, produce a high enough number of potential users, and suddenly a lower price will produce higher revenue in a larger crowd. The same goes for the quality of apps as well - a higher number of apps brings more garbage, however, there are also more good ones, they're just harder to find for a new user, who doesn't know where and how to look and gets confused by the sheer number of potential junk apps.

Anyway, going back to the topic of the quote, I'd say it's almost as simple as more-users-spend-more. And it's not just the cheapskates and the low income people who are on android these days. But you also have to consider the market you want to target, and in large parts of the U.S. Apple is still held in higher regard.

Edited 2014-03-16 14:19 UTC

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