Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Mar 2014 23:45 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

For the Internet community, the principles of free speech and equal rights are foundational. But in recent days, those issues are clashing at Mozilla, the nonprofit foundation and tech company behind the Firefox browser.

At issue is Brendan Eich, a co-founder of Mozilla, inventor of the much used Javascript programming language and the newly appointed CEO of the company. Eich made a $1,000 donation to the campaign for California's Proposition 8, which defined marriage as only between a man and a woman. The donation had come to light in 2012, but fizzled.

Opposing same-sex marriage is no different than opposing interracial marriage. As a Dutchman, it baffles me that an organisation like Mozilla appointed a man with such medieval ideas.

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RE: Crazy People
by Treza on Tue 1st Apr 2014 00:15 UTC in reply to "Crazy People"
Treza
Member since:
2006-01-11

AFAIU, in the US, the employer has an huge role for all sorts of social things like healthcare or retirement. An employer could refuse some benefits to categories [s]he does not like.
It makes that the personal opinions of the CEO can have an impact on the way the company grants these benefits.

For me it is a quite unhealthy system : Anyone should be free to have his/her own opinion, but people's rights should be decided democratically.

Or maybe I don't understand anything. Which is quite possible ;-)

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RE[2]: Crazy People
by bryanv on Tue 1st Apr 2014 02:23 in reply to "RE: Crazy People"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

Incorrect. Those are 'protected classes' and there are anti-discrimination laws in place which prevent those kinds of abuse.

For a long time, same-sex couples have been treated as a black sheep category. The problem actually revolves around the stupid notion that government be involved in anything more than taxation policy -- which is where religious groups get all hung up.

The government uses the word "marriage" to define a contract between consenting adults to jointly share property, income, and become a single taxable entity.

The religious institutions use the word "marriage" to define a holy union between a man, woman, and God. And these folks get bent all out of shape when the government uses that word to mean something else.

What totally amazes me, is that the only thing that needs to happen is for the government to stop using that word, and pick another. Or, the religious folks could just stop giving the government any say in a 'holy' marriage, be done with the whole mess.

Everyone just needs to calm the freak down and get over themselves.

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RE[3]: Crazy People
by jackastor on Tue 1st Apr 2014 13:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Crazy People"
jackastor Member since:
2009-05-05

Finally, someone else gets it.

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RE[3]: Crazy People
by cb88 on Tue 1st Apr 2014 17:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Crazy People"
cb88 Member since:
2009-04-23

I completely a agree and I'm a Baptist... just saying many religious people want the government out of such things. It would bring more freedom in just about each and every instance regardless of the anyone's personal beliefs.

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RE[3]: Crazy People
by gus3 on Tue 1st Apr 2014 23:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Crazy People"
gus3 Member since:
2010-09-02

And I agree, too, and I'm Greek Orthodox.

(I also have it on good authority that there are a lot more Greek, Russian, and Syrian Orthodox who concur. The Russians and Syrians in particular, because of their experiences with overbearing government micro-management of daily life.)

Edited 2014-04-01 23:23 UTC

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RE[3]: Crazy People
by rebus on Wed 2nd Apr 2014 05:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Crazy People"
rebus Member since:
2009-10-25

Fully agreed, the whole thing is just a linguistic problem.

Come to think of it, most arguments I hear revolve around these, ie. different definitions of the words... revolving in circles and usually ending with parties tolerantly agreeing to disagree. Lost in translation all the time. Quite ridiculous stuff.

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RE[3]: Crazy People
by JAlexoid on Thu 3rd Apr 2014 13:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Crazy People"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Incorrect. Those are 'protected classes' and there are anti-discrimination laws in place which prevent those kinds of abuse.


And gays still don't get these protections.
http://www.upworthy.com/29-states-can-fire-you-for-being-gay-is-you...

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