Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Mar 2014 23:45 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones

For the Internet community, the principles of free speech and equal rights are foundational. But in recent days, those issues are clashing at Mozilla, the nonprofit foundation and tech company behind the Firefox browser.

At issue is Brendan Eich, a co-founder of Mozilla, inventor of the much used Javascript programming language and the newly appointed CEO of the company. Eich made a $1,000 donation to the campaign for California's Proposition 8, which defined marriage as only between a man and a woman. The donation had come to light in 2012, but fizzled.

Opposing same-sex marriage is no different than opposing interracial marriage. As a Dutchman, it baffles me that an organisation like Mozilla appointed a man with such medieval ideas.

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Comment by Tractor
by Tractor on Tue 1st Apr 2014 10:07 UTC
Tractor
Member since:
2006-08-18

We had an equivalent issue at national level not so long ago.

The gay community wanted to have same-sex marriage.

The truly ironic thing is that they already had it. But the problem was, it wasn't called "marriage", it had another name (basically all the same civil rights than marriage, but with another name).

But it wasn't enough for them.
So they lobbied intensively to get to their point.
When I said "they", I should be more precise. "They" doesn't include all gays; only the most vocal and powerful ones, rich, living in the center of the Capital, influential members of the power circles.

And they got to their objective, but not without spending several months explaining to all their controlled media that anyone having a different opinion as theirs was just an insane, devilish, nazi, well choose your type of low-level this-shit-has-no-right-to-speak-nor-to-breathe description. This was so nauseous that at one point, I was wondering if this was not the real objective.

Because, now that same-sex marriage is allowed, you know what ? statistics show that gay people don't marry. And that's not a surprise : remember "same sex marriage but with another name" was already allowed, and you know what ? they did not use it either.

All this gives me the feeling that we have here little else than communautarists, experiencing their power, just for fun, and taking pleasure at destroying carefully selected defenseless opponents.

If someone wants to create a brown shit and call it a "chocolate", he will get sued and lose on the ground that what he invented cannot be classified as chocolate. And that's legitimate, because what he does is "steal" the word "chocolate" from legitimate chocolate makers, which built the word and its meaning through decades of labor. If unchecked, such theft will transform the meaning of the word "chocolate" which will then be associated to "brown shit". Of course, all chocolate makers do worry about it, and they don't want to be associated with "brown shit", it will have a profound effect on their bottom line.

"Marriage" is a word that exists for centuries, and described a social relation quite well defined, with its corpus of assumptions.
One such assumption is that "marriage", by definition, apply to man-woman relationship, and is intended to describe the start of a family.
People who adhere to this ancestral idea of "marriage" do care that it remains the same.


But, well, who cares about them anyway ?
Nowadays, only commercial interests are of extreme importance.
But social ones ? pfffff...

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RE: Comment by Tractor
by charlieg on Wed 2nd Apr 2014 12:44 in reply to "Comment by Tractor"
charlieg Member since:
2005-07-25

You are too stupid to understand that it is a civil rights issue. "They" should have the same rights as "you".

However you have framed "them" in your mind as a totally different species given how you refer to "them" with disdain throughout your rather ignorant post.

AFAIC you should be allowed to marry the person you love and want to spend your life with. If you can't, you are being discriminated against.

"Marriage" is a word that exists for centuries, and described a social relation quite well defined, with its corpus of assumptions.
One such assumption is that "marriage", by definition, apply to man-woman relationship, and is intended to describe the start of a family.

By your antiquated thinking interracial marriage should be illegal. Or do you forget that the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws in most states of America was only as recent as 1967?

But, well, who cares about them anyway ?

Not you.

Nowadays, only commercial interests are of extreme importance.
But social ones ? pfffff...

Yes, because a man marrying a man will interfere with your life... right? I mean, hell, I guess you will have to marry one yourself.

Ignorant as hell.

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RE: Comment by Tractor
by zima on Sun 6th Apr 2014 20:39 in reply to "Comment by Tractor"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

And it's just a coincidence that you chose "brown shit" as an example...

(but FYI, we had "chocolate-like product" in the former Eastern Bloc :p )

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