Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Apr 2014 15:38 UTC
Windows

It's finally here. After 12 years, 6 months, and 12 days on the market, Windows XP has hit its end of life. It will receive its last ever set of patches on Windows Update today, and for the most part, that will be that. Any flaws discovered from now on - and it's inevitable that some will be discovered - will never be publicly patched.

How bad is this going to be? It's probably going to be pretty bad. By some measures, about 28 percent of the Web-using public is still using Windows XP, and these systems are going to be ripe for exploitation.

I never liked Windows XP (I used BeOS during XP's early days, and Mac OS X and Linux during XP's later days), so I'm glad to see it go. This terrible operating system should have died out years ago.

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Liked it or not
by Kishe on Tue 8th Apr 2014 16:02 UTC
Kishe
Member since:
2006-02-16

Windows XP was great leap forward for Microsoft, after that, it's been constant "one step forward, two steps back" waltz.

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RE: Liked it or not
by binary0x01 on Tue 8th Apr 2014 16:15 in reply to "Liked it or not"
binary0x01 Member since:
2014-03-25

It depends on what you do/did with it. I've done a lot of work on windows XP and it was great. It is old now, and has been for a while, but so is the IBM System 360. They are not comparable directly but they are still useful and have been refined for a while.

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RE[2]: Liked it or not
by Anon on Wed 9th Apr 2014 05:00 in reply to "RE: Liked it or not"
Anon Member since:
2006-01-02

Agreed. If 'terrible' Thom means 'extremely successful' then yes, it was absolutely terrible.

Security wise, it was truly terrible though.

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RE: Liked it or not
by BlueofRainbow on Tue 8th Apr 2014 17:11 in reply to "Liked it or not"
BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

It was a great step forward from Windows 98SE/ME and a smaller one from Windows 2000.

A likely cause of its lasting power has been the Windows Vista disaster. By the time Windows 7 came out, the damage had been done.

And the jury is still pretty much undecided with respect to Windows 8/8.1. Many opinions - however no convincing arguments for shifting user habits from keyboard+mouse/touchpad user I/O to touch. The breakthrough/novel app for Windows 8.x does not appear to have been written yet.

I concur with Tom that BeOS was a promising alternative at the time Windows XP came out. However, Be Inc. shifted (10 years too early?) to a web-based concept and essentially marooned the desktop users on a lost island in the middle of the ocean.

Also, when 95% of the corporate world one is interfacing with/working for is Windows/Office - is there really a choice?

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RE[2]: Liked it or not
by No it isnt on Tue 8th Apr 2014 20:48 in reply to "RE: Liked it or not"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

After trying to delete a broken network profile from Windows 8, and finding that one has to drop to the command line to do so, this member of the jury has reached a decision: it's a giant leap backwards.

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RE[2]: Liked it or not
by zima on Sat 12th Apr 2014 22:51 in reply to "RE: Liked it or not"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I concur with Tom that BeOS was a promising alternative at the time Windows XP came out. However, Be Inc. shifted (10 years too early?) to a web-based concept and essentially marooned the desktop users on a lost island in the middle of the ocean.

And on the other hand BeOS was too late ...IMHO it might have had a fighting chance if it came before Win98. But Be initially self-exiled itself into niche hardware category :/ (first with BeBox, then Macintoshes, and coming to x86 PCs only after some years)

Edited 2014-04-12 22:55 UTC

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RE: Liked it or not
by darknexus on Tue 8th Apr 2014 17:28 in reply to "Liked it or not"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Can't really agree. I found XP a step backward from 2K, at least until SP2 when it stopped crashing. At least then I could get work done. It was still slower than 2K though.

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RE[2]: Liked it or not
by KLU9 on Tue 8th Apr 2014 18:36 in reply to "RE: Liked it or not"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

... if you were one of those people who had Win2K, then maybe so.

But if you were one of the hundreds of millions of ordinary consumers who hadn't used Win2K and had had to put up with Win98, trust me: it felt like a *massive* leap forward.

(Trying to escape Win98 was what brought me to BeOS and hence OSNews, when it still had a BeOS forum.)

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RE: Liked it or not
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 8th Apr 2014 19:13 in reply to "Liked it or not"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

XP finally brought consumers on the NT kernel. It was a huge leap forward for most people migrating from win 98/95. I was kind of hoping it would suck along the lines of Windows ME to provide BeOs/Linux air to breath and grow. But on release it was undeniably the best operating system Microsoft had ever created. Then a year or two later when the exploits started, my opinion changed 180 degrees, until SP2 which finally came with a firewall.

It was good. Its time is over. It should be put to pasture. Win 7 is a noble heir. And win 8 should be okay by the end of the year.

Edited 2014-04-08 19:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Liked it or not
by shakeshuck on Tue 8th Apr 2014 22:12 in reply to "RE: Liked it or not"
shakeshuck Member since:
2011-03-21

There are things in Win 7 that $%&! me off on a daily basis; things that worked fine (or were easier to administer) in XP.
I'm sure MS must have had good reasons for changing some of them, but useability obviously wasn't always a top priority.

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