Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Apr 2014 21:57 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Yoon said Samsung was working to introduce at least two smartphones running on its own Tizen operating system, a major step in the market leader's bid to break out of the Android universe.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Thu 17th Apr 2014 02:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl
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2010-06-08

Locked bootloaders is a nasty piece of junk, sure. But at least it would mean that Intel SoCs are production ready. For example Jolla could use one in their next device. So far Intel promised a lot, but where are their open SoCs?

Merrifield for example isn't using Intel GPU (it uses PowerVR), so no open drivers there. Only Moorefield will (which isn't going to be out until 2015).

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by The123king on Thu 17th Apr 2014 06:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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2009-05-28

You answered your own question there.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Lennie on Thu 17th Apr 2014 06:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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2007-09-22

The open source hackers are reverse engineering, they've come pretty far.

It's not a perfect process, but it is better than nothing.

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by The123king on Thu 17th Apr 2014 17:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
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2009-05-28

Reverse engineering isn't a replacement for an open standard. It wholy depends on what is being reverse-engineered. For example, it's taken Haiku 10 years to successfully reverse-engineer BeOS and create a product highly compatible with BeOS applications. In the same time, ReactOS has created something that might boot, and if it does boot, probably won't run your windows apps or drivers. And then you can take hardware, such as the NVidia chipsets that Nouveau have been reverse engineering, or the Cray 2 that someone emulates in a FPGA. It's all a matter of scale. Some things are easy, some are hard.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Kochise on Thu 17th Apr 2014 11:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

If AMD was going low-power with an APU offering with open bootloader, ARM-core or x86-core (as seens in Geode) with a Radeon based GPU (as seen in GameCube, XBox, PS4, ...) that would be fantastic ;)

Kochise

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by SailorSaturn on Sun 20th Apr 2014 19:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
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2014-04-20

I have some bad news for you if you're expecting Moorefield to have Intel graphics in it.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/7789/Screen%20Shot%202014-...

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