Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st May 2014 16:45 UTC
Internet Explorer

Despite XP's end of support, Microsoft is still going to release the fix for the recent Internet Explorer vulnerability for the ageing operating system.

Even though Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft and is past the time we normally provide security updates, we've decided to provide an update for all versions of Windows XP (including embedded), today. We made this exception based on the proximity to the end of support for Windows XP. The reality is there have been a very small number of attacks based on this particular vulnerability and concerns were, frankly, overblown. Unfortunately this is a sign of the times and this is not to say we don’t take these reports seriously. We absolutely do.

If you're still on Windows XP, you deserve to be insecure. Get a modern operating system - Windows 7/8, OS X, Linux, anything. XP is outdated crap, and it's time to move on.

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RE: Comment by aligatro
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 1st May 2014 19:05 UTC in reply to "Comment by aligatro"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

"If you're still on Windows XP, you deserve to be insecure. Get a modern operating system - Windows 7/8, OS X, Linux, anything. XP is outdated crap, and it's time to move on.


Thom, not everyone wants to pay for upgrade of hardware/software if there is almost no reason for it.
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There is a reason. It's insecure.

If your brakes are insecure on your care, you want them replaced, right? What if you get hit by a car whose owner didn't service their brakes properly? You'd be angry at him for not taking proper care of his vehicle, right?

Computers are no different.

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RE[2]: Comment by aligatro
by smashIt on Thu 1st May 2014 20:09 in reply to "RE: Comment by aligatro"
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2005-07-06

If your brakes are insecure on your care, you want them replaced, right?


sure, but the problem is that the manufacturer of the brakes (in this case microsoft), even after hundrets of attempts to repair them, still couldn't make them secure

the product they sold you is broken to a level that after more than 10 years of constant repairs the manufacturer itselfe has given up on it

if you would apply the same rules to software as you do to any other product you would be entitled to a complete refund

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RE[3]: Comment by aligatro
by WereCatf on Thu 1st May 2014 20:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by aligatro"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

if you would apply the same rules to software as you do to any other product you would be entitled to a complete refund


But software is nothing like e.g. the brakes mentioned before. First of all, it would be like trying to use the same brakes in all vehicles, ranging from 3-wheeled, 10hp toys to 10 ton trucks -- physical stuff just doesn't work like that while software can.

Secondly, how many things do you know brakes doing? Sure, they are depressed against the wheels and therefore reduce speeds due to friction, but do they do anything else? An Internet - browser does a whole metric fuckton of things and there are millions of places where something could go wrong.

Thirdly, how many objects actually affect the brakes? Have you ever had e.g. malfunctioning headlights stop your brakes from working? No? Well, in software there are, again, millions of ways applications can interact and an app that isn't meant to interact with something may well end up still doing it, causing a mess. Again, it's nothing like actual physical objects.

People very often go and try to compare software to physical stuff as an excuse to bitch or whine about things, but the reality is that they are not alike in any way or form.

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