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So I set myself the task of picking five great works of software. The criteria were simple: How long had it been around? Did people directly interact with it every day? Did people use it to do something meaningful? I came up with the office suite Microsoft Office, the image editor Photoshop, the videogame Pac-Man, the operating system Unix, and the text editor Emacs.

Each person has his or her own criteria for these sorts of things, but in my view, this list is woefully inadequate. If it were up to me, I would pick these, in no particular order:

  • A-0 System: the first ever compiler, written by Grace Hopper in 1951 and 1952, for the UNIVAC I.
  • UNIX: This one's a given.
  • WorldWideWeb/CERN HTTPd: the first web browser and the first web server, both written by Tim Berners-Lee. Also a given.
  • Xerox Star: this one is actually a tie between the Star, its research predecessor the Alto, and Douglas Engelbart's NLS. These three combined still define the way we do computing today - whether you look at a desktop, a smartphone, or a tablet. I decided to go with the Star because it was the only one of the three that was commercially available, and because it's so incredibly similar to what we still use today.
  • Windows: you cannot have a list of the greatest software of all time without Windows. You may not like it, you may even hate it, but the impact Windows has had on the computing world - and far, far beyond that - is immense. Not including it is a huge disservice to the operating system that put a computer on every desk, in every home.

This leaves a whole bunch of others out, such as Lotus 1-2-3, DOS, the Mac OS, Linux, and god knows what else - but such is the nature of lists like this.

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RE: Windows does not belong there
by pica on Sat 3rd May 2014 09:43 UTC in reply to "Windows does not belong there"
pica
Member since:
2005-07-10

OK, let me review

Mathematica, IMHO an excellent choice

VisiCalc, the first spread sheet ever, IMHO also an excellent choice

NextStep, do not misunderstand me I consider it great, but I would prefer SGI's IRIX to be listed instead. It had much more impact. Even Apple iOS uses SGI IRIX ideas like base the UI on a (Open)GL graphic engine.

pica

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michi Member since:
2006-02-04

OK, let me review
NextStep, do not misunderstand me I consider it great, but I would prefer SGI's IRIX to be listed instead. It had much more impact. Even Apple iOS uses SGI IRIX ideas like base the UI on a (Open)GL graphic engine.
pica


I have never used IRIX and I only briefly used NextStep after it was already irrelevant. I voted for NextStep because Objective-C and the NextStep Foundation and GUI classes were clearly ahead of their time and MacOS X and ios are based on NextStep.

But your points about IRIX and OpenGL are certainly valid.

I think there are a lof of operating systems that could be mentioned here: MacOS, NextStep, IRIX, AmigaOS and probably a lot of others I don't know for bringing something new to the table.

Windows certainly was the most successful OS of its generation but to me it does not qualify as a great work of software.

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On SGI IRIX
by pica on Sat 3rd May 2014 11:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows does not belong there"
pica Member since:
2005-07-10

* IMHO first scalable GUI
* IMHO first UNIX with GUI based administration tools
* (Open)GL
* XFS, the IMHO first journalling file system
* via "Jurassic Parc" great influence on film industies

pica

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On NextStep
by pica on Sat 3rd May 2014 12:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Windows does not belong there"
pica Member since:
2005-07-10

Nextstep features
* a MACH micro-kernel
* a Display PostScript based GUI

Mac OS up to 9.x features
* an application menu in a fixed place

Mac OS X features
* a MACH based hybrid kernel called XNU
* a Display PDF based GUI
* an application menu in a fixed place

As a result NextStep is the technical parent of OS X. OS up to 9.x is the GUI parent of OS X.

Yes, SUN now Oracle Solaris also features Display Postscript. And there are some NextStep GUI clones like GnuStep or AfterStep. But that is the only influence of NextStep I am actually aware of.

pica

EDIT typos

Edited 2014-05-03 12:06 UTC

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

AmigaOS doesn't even have memory protection... classic MacOS was similarly technologically deficient.

In contrast, NT is very competent technologically.

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