Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd May 2014 22:08 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

As Friedrich Nietzsche famously said, "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". We feel that the Neo900 project is gathering strength after all the twists and turns it experienced. We're looking forward for the future with more optimism than ever, taking lessons from our past mistakes.

The Neo900 project is seeing some major organisational difficulties, which takes resources away from the actual technical stuff. Progress on that front is still being made, though, and this update details some of it.

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RE[3]: Nostalgia value only
by kurkosdr on Fri 23rd May 2014 15:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nostalgia value only"
kurkosdr
Member since:
2011-04-11

I miss the days of having a phone that doesn't feel like everything you install could just be running randomly in the background and pop up to say 'hey, play me!' like Android does.

This can be fixed by blocking notifications from this app or removing the app.

Android's problem is you can't get admit (root) access on a phone you frickin' paid for (bought unlocked). Symbian (Series60 and UIQ) gave the user full admin access, despite not being open-source initially.

This is the perfect example that "open source" doesn't mean "open system". Even if everything in Android was open-source (drivers and play store), it still wouldn't make Android as open system as Symbian.

Edited 2014-05-23 15:56 UTC

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RE[4]: Nostalgia value only
by aligatro on Fri 23rd May 2014 17:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Nostalgia value only"
aligatro Member since:
2010-01-28

Android's problem is you can't get admit (root) access on a phone you frickin' paid for (bought unlocked). Symbian (Series60 and UIQ) gave the user full admin access, despite not being open-source initially.

This is the perfect example that "open source" doesn't mean "open system". Even if everything in Android was open-source (drivers and play store), it still wouldn't make Android as open system as Symbian.


Most people who buy Android don't know or care about "root access". Also, its part of the security design. Therefore, they come unrooted. For many Android devices its relatively easy to gain root access.

Edited 2014-05-23 17:00 UTC

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RE[5]: Nostalgia value only
by kurkosdr on Fri 23rd May 2014 20:07 in reply to "RE[4]: Nostalgia value only"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

For many Android devices its relatively easy to gain root access.


"Easy" is a subjective word. "Officially supported" is an objective term.

None of the Android devices officially allow you to get root. You have to do hacks and use third-party tools written by kids (not written by the manufacturer or the OS vendor). Precise method and amount of risk varies per device. Compare and contrast with Symbian and Ubuntu (which has sudo, an official tool that gives you root access).

PS: I know about the One PlusOne, which will supposedly provide official tools/methods to root, but I 'll see it when I believe it.

Edited 2014-05-23 20:14 UTC

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RE[4]: Nostalgia value only
by leech on Sat 24th May 2014 01:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Nostalgia value only"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

"I miss the days of having a phone that doesn't feel like everything you install could just be running randomly in the background and pop up to say 'hey, play me!' like Android does.

This can be fixed by blocking notifications from this app or removing the app.

Android's problem is you can't get admit (root) access on a phone you frickin' paid for (bought unlocked). Symbian (Series60 and UIQ) gave the user full admin access, despite not being open-source initially.

This is the perfect example that "open source" doesn't mean "open system". Even if everything in Android was open-source (drivers and play store), it still wouldn't make Android as open system as Symbian.
"

Yeah, you CAN get rid of the notifications, but I find it retarded that it's not default to not have notifications unless you say "hey, sure run in the background and tell me there are new players wanting to get their asses kicked" or something. I also find it funny that the easiest way to get a program to not startup when you start your phone is to move them to an SD card. It's no wonder Google's devices don't include one.

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