Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd May 2014 22:08 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

As Friedrich Nietzsche famously said, "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". We feel that the Neo900 project is gathering strength after all the twists and turns it experienced. We're looking forward for the future with more optimism than ever, taking lessons from our past mistakes.

The Neo900 project is seeing some major organisational difficulties, which takes resources away from the actual technical stuff. Progress on that front is still being made, though, and this update details some of it.

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RE[4]: Nostalgia value only
by aligatro on Fri 23rd May 2014 17:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Nostalgia value only"
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Android's problem is you can't get admit (root) access on a phone you frickin' paid for (bought unlocked). Symbian (Series60 and UIQ) gave the user full admin access, despite not being open-source initially.

This is the perfect example that "open source" doesn't mean "open system". Even if everything in Android was open-source (drivers and play store), it still wouldn't make Android as open system as Symbian.

Most people who buy Android don't know or care about "root access". Also, its part of the security design. Therefore, they come unrooted. For many Android devices its relatively easy to gain root access.

Edited 2014-05-23 17:00 UTC

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RE[5]: Nostalgia value only
by kurkosdr on Fri 23rd May 2014 20:07 in reply to "RE[4]: Nostalgia value only"
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For many Android devices its relatively easy to gain root access.

"Easy" is a subjective word. "Officially supported" is an objective term.

None of the Android devices officially allow you to get root. You have to do hacks and use third-party tools written by kids (not written by the manufacturer or the OS vendor). Precise method and amount of risk varies per device. Compare and contrast with Symbian and Ubuntu (which has sudo, an official tool that gives you root access).

PS: I know about the One PlusOne, which will supposedly provide official tools/methods to root, but I 'll see it when I believe it.

Edited 2014-05-23 20:14 UTC

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RE[6]: Nostalgia value only
by leech on Sat 24th May 2014 01:40 in reply to "RE[5]: Nostalgia value only"
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This is exactly it, and not to mention with things like Knox, which will mess up your warranty.

And the "most normal users don't care about root." is bullshit, something simple like Avast Antivirus for Android requires root access if you want to use all of it's features.

There are plenty of very legitimate applications that require root.

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