Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd May 2014 18:21 UTC, submitted by Shane
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I was at the OpenStack Summit this week. The overwhelming majority of OpenStack deployments are Linux-based, yet the most popular laptop vendor (by a long way) at the conference was Apple. People are writing code with the intention of deploying it on Linux, but they're doing so under an entirely different OS.

But what's really interesting is the tools they're using to do so. When I looked over people's shoulders, I saw terminals and a web browser. They're not using Macs because their development tools require them, they're using Macs because of what else they get - an aesthetically pleasing OS, iTunes and what's easily the best trackpad hardware/driver combination on the market. These are people who work on the same laptop that they use at home. They'll use it when they're commuting, either for playing videos or for getting a head start so they can leave early. They use an Apple because they don't want to use different hardware for work and pleasure.

Apple's laptops are still the best PCs money can buy at the moment (despite their horribly outdated displays). It's no wonder Linux developers, too, favour them.

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RE[2]: Comment by vivainio
by Vanders on Fri 23rd May 2014 18:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by vivainio"
Vanders
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2005-07-06

only works if you can get use to the various Mac-specific keyboard shortcuts.


Oh God, talk about a space cadet keyboard. My battle against RSI and trying to remember which particular combination of Fn/Ctrl/Cmd I need at any given moment continues, and the Mac is winning.

Don't even talk to me about Apples bizarre idea of what a GB-UK keyboard is.

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RE[3]: Comment by vivainio
by TemporalBeing on Fri 23rd May 2014 19:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by vivainio"
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2007-08-22

"only works if you can get use to the various Mac-specific keyboard shortcuts.


Oh God, talk about a space cadet keyboard. My battle against RSI and trying to remember which particular combination of Fn/Ctrl/Cmd I need at any given moment continues, and the Mac is winning.

Don't even talk to me about Apples bizarre idea of what a GB-UK keyboard is.
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What got me was things like Option+C instead of CTRL+C, and the line vs page cursor movements - CTRL+Shift+Up going to the start of the page instead of just up a line...or whatever the shortcut is...it's all muscle memory. I don't know why they have to forbid you from setting your own and then having it be different from everyone else.

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RE[4]: Comment by vivainio
by Vanders on Sat 24th May 2014 00:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by vivainio"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

It's even worse than that: certain combinations will do totally different things, depending on if it's a "UNIX" or "native" application. The number of times I've hit Fn+Left ("Home", don't you know) in a multi-line edit box in Chrome, only for the page to shoot to the top and me to swear profusely...

Yet Linux gets this right.

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RE[3]: Comment by vivainio
by Beta on Mon 26th May 2014 19:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by vivainio"
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2005-07-06

Don't even talk to me about Apples bizarre idea of what a GB-UK keyboard is.


Dealing with this same issue here… just picked up a 2011 MBP 17″, my first Apple ever, and was really surprised at how ungreat the keyboard and the layout is.
Already swapped a few of the keycaps around, and been actively shopping for replacements in other layouts (a Swedish 2 would be a good start).

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