Linked by Howard Fosdick on Sat 7th Jun 2014 00:53 UTC
Xfce Over the past several years, mobile devices have greatly influenced user interfaces. That's great for handheld users but leaves those of us who rely on laptops and desktops in the lurch. Windows 8, Ubuntu Unity, and GNOME have all radically changed in ways that leave personal computer users scratching their heads.

One user interface completely avoided this controversy: Xfce. This review takes a quick look at Xfce today. Who is this product for? Who should pass it by?
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Windows 8 has a desktop
by Mr. Dee on Sat 7th Jun 2014 21:02 UTC
Mr. Dee
Member since:
2005-11-13

And it pretty much works just like Windows 7.
With Windows 8.1 with Update 1 (both free to Windows 8 users) it provides a pretty consistent Windows desktop experience. You can set Windows to boot directly to desktop in fact with Update 1 it does this on non touch hardware.

Windows 8/8.1 desktop features all the familiar elements of Windows such as Taskbar for hosting your open apps and shortcuts. File Explorer provides improved file management tools, ribbon based toolbar provides quick access to configuration and organizational tools. You can now mount VHDs and .ISOs natively.

To be honest, the desktop in Windows 8/8.1 actually feels more powerful. So, I find it strange when you say Microsoft is all about touch, yes, they were forcing it on users, but they never killed the desktop, just made it a legacy feature of the OS, just like the transition from DOS to Windows 1x/2x/3x that still provided DOS as a legacy component for legacy apps.

I work in an environment where I am exposed to a variety of customers, both adults and students. A lot of teachers bought notebooks with Windows 8 when the went off on vacation and brought them to use at work. Students too I notice also seem to have Windows 8 based notebooks that outnumber the amount of Windows 7 notebooks. I have asked several of them about their experience with Windows 8. Most say its really different, that's the usual response, but then you hear, its not really hard to use.

You can notice the engagement with OS, lock screens are customized images of themselves and their families. The Start Screen is normally changed with a different background and color scheme to suit the users taste. The seem to find the desktop just find if they want to browse the web or use traditional desktop apps like Office.

So, this idea that users are somehow complaining comes across as bull crap to me. We might say the upgrade pace to Windows 8 is evidence that persons are not interested, but what would you expect with a great release called Windows 7 and the fact that many users are more than happy with what it does for them?

Windows 7 is the new XP and I won't be surprised when 2020 comes Microsoft will be in a similar situation trying to get users off it to Windows 12 or whatever version is out by that time.

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RE: Windows 8 has a desktop
by TechGeek on Sun 8th Jun 2014 05:31 in reply to "Windows 8 has a desktop"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Windows has a broken UI design. It is designed for both touch and non touch devices simultaneously. The problem is that you either are one or the other. If you are on a touch device, why should you have to switch to desktop to use a normal app? And for God's sake, if I am on a desktop with no touch, why can't you lock out metro? It is very jarring to have to pop back and forth between the two interfaces when trying to get work done.

EDIT: It seems you can come close to locking out metro using some third party tools. But still, why should you have to pay extra for it?

Edited 2014-06-08 05:35 UTC

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I have a touch laptop running Win 8.1 here that begs to differ, I use the touchscreen often while using the keyboard. It works well.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Have you considered a job in Microsoft's PR department?

There was a lot of crazy stuff in that like "engagement" that they would find attractive.

You either recognize that the UX is fundamentally screwed up and needs to be improved ( like Microsoft does now), or you're in denial (Microsoft under Balmer) .

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