Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 11th Nov 2005 19:42 UTC
Windows There is no compelling reason to rush into upgrading to the next version of Windows, says Gartner.
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by Kroc on Fri 11th Nov 2005 19:56 UTC
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2005-11-10

Nor will consumers, they'll get Vista when they buy a new machine. Microsoft really don't think that average Joe is going to upgrade windows themselves, that's really deluded.

Vista is very consumer orientated, a lot like OSX Tiger. What confuses me the most is Microsoft advertising Windows XP and discontinuing 2K; If a company upgrades to XP now, then there is no way in hell they will upgrade in 2008, most companies keep their OS for way too long.

If MS kept 2000 supported until 2007/8 then it would be around about the right time for businesses to move up to Vista - what Microsoft reall want.

I don't see the benefit of going from 2K - XP now and blowing all your budget for OS upgrades for the next ten years

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by ma_d on Fri 11th Nov 2005 20:17 in reply to "RE"
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2005-06-29

If they update to XP now, they'll update to Vista when it EOL's. If they wait for Vista they'll just be running on a half-supported Win2K and make Microsoft look bad for not supporting it (not that they really should have to, it's getting beyond what is a reasonable life for it).

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by Kroc on Fri 11th Nov 2005 20:19 in reply to "RE"
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2005-11-10

"it's getting beyond what is a reasonable life for it"

O_o You are kidding, Windows 2000 is everything Windows XP is, XP has skinning and extra holes. Microsoft are not supporting Windows 2000 not because it's old and unsupportable, it's because they want to force people to upgrade. Anybody who codes on the NT platform will know that 2000 is still fully supportable well into Vista and beyond.

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by re_re on Sat 12th Nov 2005 00:41 in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

well, I have two points here, first, Microsoft dosen't care if you buy XP or Vista, they just want the sale.

Secondly, Microsoft sees it like this, if they discontinue support for 2k and push companies to upgrade to XP, then in a few years they can push compaines to upgrade to Vista when they discontinue support for XP (two sales instead of one)

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by unoengborg on Sun 13th Nov 2005 13:15 in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06


Secondly, Microsoft sees it like this, if they discontinue support for 2k and push companies to upgrade to XP, then in a few years they can push compaines to upgrade to Vista when they discontinue support for XP (two sales instead of one)



The problem with this strategy is that MacOS, and Linux is growing and offer better and better products. It seams that current versions of MacOS-X is very close to offer the same thing that Vista will do in a year from now. When XP is end of lifed the market will be different.

MacOS-X and Linux will be even better and so will probably Microsofts offerings. However XP/win2k allready offers what 99% of the users need. Innovate new products that are needed, or to develop new needs of the users in this situation is very difficult and expensive.

To follow the leader is not near as costly,
this means that Linux will catch up very quickly. By the time XP is en of lifed I wouldn't be surprised if the desktop market was divided in MS 33%, Apple 33%, Linux 33%, and 1% for various other players. In such a market it is not evident that you should go for Microsoft.

Microsoft knows this, that is why we probably be see ad financed Microsoft software. This worked for the Opera web browser and it will probably work for Microsoft, bu t it will be a whole new market, and a market where Microsoft havent the monopoly advantage anymore.

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