Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 11th Nov 2005 19:43 UTC
Linux "As you already know, if I have to sit down in front of a computer, I want it to be running the Gnome desktop on Linux. I've watched it mature from a downright ugly, needlessly complex playground for geeks, to an attractive, simple interface that holds its own against commercial alternatives. And yet, every day I still encounter rough edges that make me think there aren't nearly enough folks out there hacking away at this stuff. I'd like to watch." Read more at PCWorld. Warning: While some of the author's gripes can be fixed by installing third party applications or plugins, or by tweaking Alsa etc, the point remains that his default distribution and/or Gnome did not come with these conveniences by default. Most people don't like tweaking stuff, they want things that "just work".
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Well, I would like to use Linux though. I like all operating systems though. Each has its strengths as you elude to. I would like Gnome/KDE and other popular gui's for *nix to do what my amiga did with an OS on a single 880k floppy could do with no problem. Windows 95 could set my resolution easily, so could WinNT. Even OS2 2.1 could do it.

Why is it such a huge request to ask to be able to graphically set the desktop resolution on my computer in *nix using xorg or X11R6? My eyes get blurry at 60hz refresh and it's just way too flickery.

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ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29 -- site is unbearably slow right now --has helpful tips

There is probably a thousand sites which detail how to get xorg working the way you want. There are multiple forums filled with people willing to help (, search first for your own good;, ubuntu forums), there are irc channels filled with people waiting to help you on your distribution. And you come into OSNews and complain, and wonder why you don't get much help.

This is your patient, not yelling at you for doing something blatantly rude, help. Take it wisely, follow my advise, don't mod me down for not sugar coating it, and fix your problem.
No one is going to hold your hand through anything *nix because we know that's best for you in the long run. It's called "tough love", just don't get some crazy idea that anyone "loves" you ;) .

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jjmckay Member since:

Thanks very much for your feedback and the resources. Google wasn't helpful which usually is. I'll do those.

Well, Daniel's input was correct. One can (in theory) set resolution/refresh in Preferences -> Screen Resolution. However xorg only shows the most basic resolutions, 1024x768;800x600;640x640 and all only at 60hz (eye killing flicker for me). Well, this is about what Windows would do so that in and of itself is understandable to me.

So I went to nVidia's site & downloaded the driver for amd64/linux. I run that (having to set u+x permissions which a real novice wouln't know how to do) and it says the following:

ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.

So I'm not sure if it's Ubuntu's distro that is lacking or if it is nVidia's driver that has an unusual dependency. Google search indiciates that binutils is a rather standard thing for Ubuntu so I just don't know why it can't find ld. I've found nothing so far. A 'find / -name ld' gets nothing.

Okay i'm positive all of this can be fixed with some work but its just not what Linux needs to have users going through if it wants to grow to outcompete Windows on the desktop. I would like nothing more than to stop using Windows for many reasons but .....

My point in posting this, in a way, isn't looking for tech support but to post this type of issue that the story points to with Linux. Its topical as I see it.

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Temcat Member since:

The point is, why *should* setting refresh rate be difficult?

(I know, in theory it's set via corresponding Gnome preferences applet, but at least in Ubuntu it doesn't allow me to choose any refresh rate other than that selected by default; the drop-down box has exactly one item...)

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