Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Nov 2005 18:50 UTC
Internet & Networking If a certain US senator and a certain EU commissioner are to be believed, the internet is five days away from total collapse as governments are finally forced into a corner and told to agree on a framework for future Internet governance. Both are wrong, but there is a very real risk that an enormous political argument resulting in lifelong ill-will centred around the internet could developed unchecked at the WSIS Summit. The fact that it hasn’t already is effectively down to one man: Mr Khan. He was chosen as chair of Sub-Committee A during the WSIS process, and his remit includes all the most difficult and contentious elements - not just internet governance but also how the world will deal with issues such as spam and cybercrime.
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re:Moulinneuf
by bentman78 on Tue 15th Nov 2005 15:49 UTC
bentman78
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2005-11-15

Yes they are , the EU is more then one country , the US is #1 in corruption , all by itself , they have to be #1 at everything ...


state sources please. Where is the world corruption ranking list. Sounds like someone has a case of ADS (American Derangement Syndrome), where everything stated about the US must be bad, regardless of actual facts. Like Europe is benevelont huh? They are just better at corruption than we are since they have had 1000 years to perfect it. You can add that to the raping and plundering of the world for there own uses...must get tiring doing it for that long.


"Actually for an Organization who's first mandate is no more war , I think since we havent had a World War in 60 years , there pretty good at there job.
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Not at all, the turn thier back on resolutions they pass, turn thier back on Rwanda and Somilia, still haven't solved the Bosnia-Serbia and Chenchya crises even though they're in thier own back yard...so no...they haven't done a good job.

"**The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is an internationally organized, non-profit corporation that has responsibility for Internet Protocol (IP) address space allocation, protocol identifier assignment, generic (gTLD) and country code (ccTLD) Top-Level Domain name system management, and root server system management functions.**

What your government is trying could be compared as hijacking the Red Cross because they have Red Cross center in the US ... You just making yourself look like laughing stock from anyone who as two bits of senses. "

you're a moron, they still answer to the Dept. of Commerce.

"No Idea , ask your government , it dont make snese to me this days , same thing happened with Lenovo ( china company who bought IBM desktop division ) , congress said , hey its US we must stop china from taking our technology , guess what genius , they've been making IBM computer there for almost 15 years now ... "
the concern was for the server market not as much the PC market. Believe everything you read in the media, well you shouldn't, as a former govt. emplpoyee I know the real story.

"Nope , its not yet considered a communication mean , legally that is , hence it does not offer the same level of protection to all users , last time I looked all communication are reglemented by the UN , they've been doing them for years , you did not knew that I guess , there also the illegal stuff that get closed by ISP , but the pedophile just change ISP when found , etc ... etc ...
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and your beloved UN will do what against the pedophiles and scum out there? I'll give you a hint...nothing.

"Yes because the US as nothing to do with it , but there trying to imply they do , its funny as hell , but its getting ridiculous now ... so stop that , please."

we have the root servers here...you don't... that is something you don't have. Besides if it were such a big deal...then why are the Euros, Chinese and others whining. If the US has nothing to do with it than leave it be...oh wait can't have that because it's in the US. We all know if it's against the US it must be good.

RE: re:Moulinneuf
by Moulinneuf on Tue 15th Nov 2005 17:19 in reply to "re:Moulinneuf"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"state sources please."

http://europa.eu.int/abc/governments/index_en.htm

Europe is more then 1 country

"Where is the world corruption ranking list."

US ... Ask a real journalist at your local newspaper.

"Sounds like someone has a case of ADS (American Derangement Syndrome)"

Thats what the specialist who analyzed you called it ?
I dont have a problem with myself seeing as I am a real American I just happen to be from CANADA. I have a problem with certain US idiots yes.

"where everything stated about the US must be bad"

The US where behind the creation of the UN , thats not a bad thing for me ...

"regardless of actual facts"

I faill to see any facts at all coming from you. Care to point them out for me ?

"Like Europe is benevelont huh?"

It dont work that way the US is not good because in your mind Europe is bad , you dont even know what Europe mean and is.

"They are just better at corruption than we are since they have had 1000 years to perfect it."

No , in that area your ahead of everyone else.

"You can add that to the raping and plundering of the world for there own uses...must get tiring doing it for that long."

Again your the absolute best in that area too.

"Not at all"

Its not because you are in a conflict that its a world war , 60 years since the last one , thats there only real job.

"the turn thier back on resolutions they pass"

No , but there allowed to change there mind like say when they get faulty report ...

"turn thier back on Rwanda ..."

Rwanda as blamed directly the US for most of there problems ...

Somalia as blamed directly the US for most of there problems ...

"haven't solved the Bosnia-Serbia "

US involvment ...

"Chenchya crises"

US involvment ...

"even though they're in thier own back yard.. "

The entire planet is there problem , thats why there the UN ( United Nations )

"so no...they haven't done a good job."

Actually they do , no World War , thats there only job ...

"you're a moron"

No , but I get down to your level.

"they still answer to the Dept. of Commerce."

Giving someone a report does not make one answer to someone else ...

"the concern was ... I know the real story. "

Wich story your going to tell the "Football one" , the "missile silo one" , "the echellon one" , "the etc ..." . There called story because there made up ... Please ...

"and your beloved UN ...nothing."

There not the US ;-) , they actually have great success with getting at them and imprisonning them.

"we have the root servers here...you don't"

Nope , buts its funny that you think you do. The US citizens actually paid for some of them tru governement financing and private corporations , there in America do.

"that is something you don't have."

You would be really surprised to know the reality. People think India is the #1 outsourcing for IT in the US , its actually CANADA.

"Besides if it were such a big deal...then why are the Euros, Chinese and others whining."

The only one we all see whining is the US , I should be precise some vocal clueless idiots in the US citizenship and in the US governments.

"If the US has nothing to do with it than leave it be"

Nobody is touching any structure , we are just making Internet communication part of the global communication agreements as an offical mean of communication as it should always have been included from the start.

"oh wait can't have that because it's in the US"

Keep thinking that ... No really , we like it that you think that way.

"We all know if it's against the US it must be good."

Must be one of those days when you think the US is not part of the UN and where you did not take your pills and see enemy everywhere ... and where your delusionnal about whats the reality.

The only real enemy the US as is itself. Your only hurting yourself.

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