Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2015 23:18 UTC
Windows This hit the news yesterday.

Microsoft released Windows 10 four weeks ago today, and now the company is providing a fresh update on its upgrade figures. 14 million machines had been upgraded to Windows 10 within 24 hours of the operating system release last month, and that figure has now risen to more than 75 million in just four weeks.

As somebody who uses Windows every day, and who upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks before it was released, let me make a statement about all the positive Windows 10 reviews that not everyone is going to like. There are only two reasons Windows 10 is getting positive reviews. First, because it's free. This one's a given. Second, and more importantly: Windows 10 is getting positive reviews because none of the reviewers have forced themselves to use nothing but Metro applications.

Here's the cold and harsh truth as I see it: despite all the promises, Metro applications are still complete and utter garbage. Let me explain why.

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RE[2]: Win32 vs Metro
by WorknMan on Fri 28th Aug 2015 04:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Win32 vs Metro"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

And how much of this 'visually rich' stuff actually enhances the application in some tangible way, rather than just being eye candy?

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RE[3]: Win32 vs Metro
by dpJudas on Fri 28th Aug 2015 04:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Win32 vs Metro"
dpJudas Member since:
2009-12-10

And how much of this 'visually rich' stuff actually enhances the application in some tangible way, rather than just being eye candy?

Hehe, well personally I like candy. ;)

I generally don't disagree that we "lost something" usability-wise since Windows 95 where everything was built using common controls. I just think that appearance of an application matters more than most developers realize. It is kind of like it shouldn't matter if a game is ugly if it has good gameplay. In the end both things matter and you need a good balance.

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RE[4]: Win32 vs Metro
by WorknMan on Fri 28th Aug 2015 17:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Win32 vs Metro"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I just think that appearance of an application matters more than most developers realize.


Even if I agreed with this (which I don't as long as the app is user-friendly), I think we've swung too far in the 'just make it look pretty' direction to the point where a major update for most apps these days mainly consists of slapping a new coat of paint on it, while removing a feature or three in the process, all in the name of 'elegant' app design.

And even if apps do get new features, it's usually useless shit like, 'share xyz with your friends!!', which is mainly designed for advertisers to track you than it is actually providing value to the end user.

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RE[3]: Win32 vs Metro
by chrish on Fri 28th Aug 2015 15:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Win32 vs Metro"
chrish Member since:
2005-07-14

The hilarious part of supporting "visually rich" apps is that everyone's gone for this minimalistic flat style that reduces usability, while turning all the visuals into whiteness, squares and rectangles.

I gave the Metro apps in Win 10 a chance, I really did. I might even give the Metro version of Wunderlist another go when they update it for Win 10.

The apps I use every day are all "desktop" apps. The move to Metro always loses you a lot of functionality, even beyond the worse UI... compare the Metro OneNote in Win 10 to the desktop OneNote from Office 2013.

- chrish

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RE[4]: Win32 vs Metro
by dpJudas on Fri 28th Aug 2015 18:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Win32 vs Metro"
dpJudas Member since:
2009-12-10

The hilarious part of supporting "visually rich" apps is that everyone's gone for this minimalistic flat style that reduces usability, while turning all the visuals into whiteness, squares and rectangles.

Haha, I never said that I think "flat" designs are beautiful, or that they are visually rich. ;)

I personally think the blueish gradients in Windows 7 became a bit tiring after looking at them for 5 years. Current OS X looks nice to me without taking it too far in the flat direction (iOS on the other hand..). I also like the Windows 10 window frame, but hate the System Settings grey color. YMMV. ;)

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