Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2015 23:18 UTC
Windows This hit the news yesterday.

Microsoft released Windows 10 four weeks ago today, and now the company is providing a fresh update on its upgrade figures. 14 million machines had been upgraded to Windows 10 within 24 hours of the operating system release last month, and that figure has now risen to more than 75 million in just four weeks.

As somebody who uses Windows every day, and who upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks before it was released, let me make a statement about all the positive Windows 10 reviews that not everyone is going to like. There are only two reasons Windows 10 is getting positive reviews. First, because it's free. This one's a given. Second, and more importantly: Windows 10 is getting positive reviews because none of the reviewers have forced themselves to use nothing but Metro applications.

Here's the cold and harsh truth as I see it: despite all the promises, Metro applications are still complete and utter garbage. Let me explain why.

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Great Review Thom
by shotsman on Fri 28th Aug 2015 06:03 UTC
shotsman
Member since:
2005-07-22

I hope your well considered words get a much wider distribution.

My main gripe is their goal to force the phone UI to the desktop. What % of phone users actually choose a Windows phone? <10%.

Their grand plan to rule the IT world now depends on people using the stupid Metro UI on the desktop and saying to themselves that ok, I'll get a Windows phone because I know how to usr it.... {Doh!}

Some points from the text
1)Can you spot the URL input field?
This is because they want you to search for everything. Then they can harvest all that lovely data just like Google. This is why they have put all this emphasis on Search.
simple really.
BTW, I never use and form of search on the Windows systems I use for my day job.

2) Your description of the Mail app shows their totally borked thinking. I use a three screen setup for my job as a software developer. Can someone who isn't a marketeer please explain how the single panel workflow can work efficiently here? {i'm listening to the 'sounds of silence'}

It seems to me that MS is preparing us for the future.
No not the rent the OS on my desktop by the month/day/hour but the full blown return to the days of the Mainfram and 3270 terminals.
Instead of that we will have (very) thin clients and everything is in the cloud for the marketing people to sift through every keystroke. Different technology but essentially the same.

The increasing emphasis on 'being always connected' for social media fits right into this grand plan.

Stop the world I wanna get off.
Well , I will soon anyway when I retire and with every incarnation of Windows this date gets shifted ever closer. So I'm an old fart/dinosaur/fogey. What is wrong with that eh?

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RE: Great Review Thom
by avgalen on Fri 28th Aug 2015 10:24 in reply to "Great Review Thom"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

2) Your description of the Mail app shows their totally borked thinking. I use a three screen setup for my job as a software developer. Can someone who isn't a marketeer please explain how the single panel workflow can work efficiently here? {i'm listening to the 'sounds of silence'}

The explanation is that the mail app is not meant for people like you. For people like you they sell Office that includes Outlook that will fit your workflow much better.
The mail app is meant for people like my parents that check mail twice per day or less and receive about 10 mails of which they only respond to a few.
Of course the mail app scales up quite a bit and is probably at least as capable as Outlook Express used to be while being much more userfriendly. From the other side of the spectrum Outlook scales down quite a bit so you could also so it with just an IMAP-account instead of an Exchange Server
Different users require different programs. Not so long ago Microsoft got slammed for including a browser in the OS. Now they get slammed for not including a professional mail-client?

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RE[2]: Great Review Thom
by shotsman on Fri 28th Aug 2015 10:39 in reply to "RE: Great Review Thom"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

But... It is a metro App. Aren't we supposed to be using only Metroised Apps because that brings a consistent user experience from phonues upwards?

Thom was talking about Metro Apps. Even my non It friends want the sort of thing that is there even in pretty basic mail clients but is not possible win a single panel app.

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RE: Great Review Thom
by Vanders on Fri 28th Aug 2015 12:43 in reply to "Great Review Thom"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

This is because they want you to search for everything. Then they can harvest all that lovely data just like Google. This is why they have put all this emphasis on Search.

They don't need to break the UI to do that; they could just send every URL you type back to themselves and mine that data directly.

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RE: Great Review Thom
by Lennie on Sat 29th Aug 2015 16:29 in reply to "Great Review Thom"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I hope your well considered words get a much wider distribution.

My main gripe is their goal to force the phone UI to the desktop. What % of phone users actually choose a Windows phone?

Their grand plan to rule the IT world now depends on people using the stupid Metro UI on the desktop and saying to themselves that ok, I'll get a Windows phone because I know how to usr it.... {Doh!}


I assume their idea is that you'd share the data between your phone and desktop because you are using the same apps.

But as I mentioned above they are busy even loosing the business desktop:

"Chromebooks have overtaken sales of Windows notebooks."
http://www.itworld.com/article/2970868/hardware/chromebooks-are-eat...

Typo fix: wrong link

Edited 2015-08-29 16:40 UTC

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RE[2]: Great Review Thom
by avgalen on Sun 30th Aug 2015 19:55 in reply to "RE: Great Review Thom"
avgalen Member since:
2010-09-23

Lennie, you have posted a few links to the "Chromebook sales have overtaken Windows". That article has created a lot of fuzz on the internet because it isn't until halfway that they mention that this is only in a very tiny segment of the entire market.

A realistic view of the market shows you that the expected number of Chromebooks to be sold this year is about 7.5 million, of which only 2 million will be sold outside of education.
Now please compare that to the roughly 50 million ipads, 250 million pc's. 1 billion smartphones etc.

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