Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Aug 2015 23:18 UTC
Windows This hit the news yesterday.

Microsoft released Windows 10 four weeks ago today, and now the company is providing a fresh update on its upgrade figures. 14 million machines had been upgraded to Windows 10 within 24 hours of the operating system release last month, and that figure has now risen to more than 75 million in just four weeks.

As somebody who uses Windows every day, and who upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks before it was released, let me make a statement about all the positive Windows 10 reviews that not everyone is going to like. There are only two reasons Windows 10 is getting positive reviews. First, because it's free. This one's a given. Second, and more importantly: Windows 10 is getting positive reviews because none of the reviewers have forced themselves to use nothing but Metro applications.

Here's the cold and harsh truth as I see it: despite all the promises, Metro applications are still complete and utter garbage. Let me explain why.

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RE[5]: Win32 vs Metro
by dpJudas on Fri 28th Aug 2015 18:39 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Win32 vs Metro"
dpJudas
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2009-12-10

Even if I agreed with this (which I don't as long as the app is user-friendly), I think we've swung too far in the 'just make it look pretty' direction to the point where a major update for most apps these days mainly consists of slapping a new coat of paint on it, while removing a feature or three in the process, all in the name of 'elegant' app design.

Allowing designs is no guarantee that the designer knows what he is doing. Still, when done right I find it very pleasing to look at, and if two programs/websites are roughly functionally identical I will pick the pretty one. More importantly, if I don't know which is best I will try the pretty app the first.

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RE[6]: Win32 vs Metro
by WorknMan on Fri 28th Aug 2015 18:58 in reply to "RE[5]: Win32 vs Metro"
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2005-11-13

Problem is, too many people are choosing looks over functionality. Well, that's not technically a 'problem', until you consider where most of the dev work is going... not only in software, but in hardware too.

Case in point... Samsung decided that a breakable glass back was more important than a removable battery on the S6 and Note 5. Who in their right mind thinks this is a good idea?

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RE[7]: Win32 vs Metro
by dpJudas on Fri 28th Aug 2015 19:19 in reply to "RE[6]: Win32 vs Metro"
dpJudas Member since:
2009-12-10

Problem is, too many people are choosing looks over functionality. Well, that's not technically a 'problem', until you consider where most of the dev work is going... not only in software, but in hardware too.

Case in point... Samsung decided that a breakable glass back was more important than a removable battery on the S6 and Note 5. Who in their right mind thinks this is a good idea?

I don't dispute any of that. Good industrial design naturally does not sacrifice functionality.

The need for "visually rich" design in UI's comes from small simple practical things like the address field in your browser. In FF for example it shows a drop down menu with an icon and two lines of text for each item. This is highly specialized for browsers as it conveys exactly three things: 1) the site icon, 2) the site title, 3) its URL.

Now the problem is that any common control theme system (like uxtheme) has a really hard time abstracting this. The closest you have is a ComboBox control which doesn't support this complex listing and also doesn't support stuff like the reload button being inside the control. Another example would be the address field in File Explorer.

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