Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Sep 2015 15:13 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

For the past few years, we've been in a relatively healthy balance when it comes to our smartphones. Both Apple and Google provided us with relatively decent platforms that were pretty straightforward to use, provided us with interesting and useful functionality, and at mostly decent price points. In return, we accepted a certain amount of lock-in, a certain lack of control over our devices and the software platforms running on them. I felt comfortable with this trade-off, whether I was using an iPhone or an Android phone at the time.

Recently, however, I've been feeling like this balance in iOS and Android is tipping - and not in the right direction. The users' interests have taken a decided backseat to corporate interests, and the user experiences of the two platforms in question have, consequently, suffered, and I see little in the future to counteract this development

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RE: It's really not that bad
by WereCatf on Fri 4th Sep 2015 15:35 UTC in reply to "It's really not that bad"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

How exactly is Apple gaining control over what kind of news you see on your iOS device?
Google Chrome and Firefox have adblockers you can enable in them. Does that mean Google and Mozilla have "strict control over what news you get to see on your desktop?"


Neither Google or Mozilla is the provider of the adblocker. It's whoever made the adblocker one uses and its lists who is in control of such. Apple, on the other hand, is themselves the provider of the adblocker and its lists.

Edited 2015-09-04 15:36 UTC

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RE[2]: It's really not that bad
by leos on Fri 4th Sep 2015 16:53 in reply to "RE: It's really not that bad"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Still nonsense. Is Adblock controlling the news you see? No of course not. They are blocking ads using well defined rules. Safari ad blocking is the same thing and entirely within the control of the user. Apple has no control over the content you can access through safari.

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mistersoft Member since:
2011-01-05

Dear Leos,

I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or somewhat missing Thom's point -


which I understand to be that, with Apple providing in browser ad-blocking at the OS level, then if users switch on ad-blocking - or more likely it's enabled by default, then website news outlets funded by on-page advertising (of which their are many outlets) - will be forced, economically, to enter Apple's app ecosystem (and thereby have far less choice over which advertising partners they go with and consequently what revenue streams are available)

--and thereby-- Apple is by-proxy having a pretty controlling influence over your available News media

(in theory at least)

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RE[2]: It's really not that bad
by leos on Fri 4th Sep 2015 17:02 in reply to "RE: It's really not that bad"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Never mind that Apple is not proving the content blocker, they are only providing the framework just like Mozilla and Google. Third parties will be able to write the actual content blockers.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Never mind that Apple is not proving the content blocker, they are only providing the framework just like Mozilla and Google. Third parties will be able to write the actual content blockers.

Yes, but how long do you think it'll be before Apple starts deciding that certain content blockers violate their guidelines? Then again, why am I trying to reason with someone like you?

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