Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Nov 2015 23:41 UTC
Windows

With Continuum, capable Windows 10 Mobile devices will be able to act like PCs, hooking up to keyboards, mice, and monitors for a full Windows desktop experience, and Microsoft is looking into ways of expanding these capabilities. Apparently, that involves investigating the possibility of running Win32 apps from phones, according to Microsoft's Kevin Gallo during the Connect() 2015 conference.

I have two things to say about this. First, this is totally cool. The idea of having just one smartphone with me that can hook up to a display, keyboard, and mouse, and then also run proper Win32 applications (instead of crappy Metro applications) is incredibly appealing to me. I like the concept of the Surface and Continuum (the device being smart enough to adapt the UI to the current input method), but a desktop with just Metro (and yes I will keep using that name) applications is pretty much useless. It's going to need big girl applications.

Second, while cool, this is also yet another admission from Microsoft that they just can't get developers - either inside or outside - to care much about Metro and all that it entails. Microsoft would love to move everyone - users and developers alike - over to Metro, but it just isn't happening, and there's no signs that it's going to get any better in the near future. I would love for Metro to be adopted enough (and capable enough) so that it can start replacing Win32 - but it's been years now, and it's pretty clear that we're just not getting there.

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Where the story ends?
by Milan Kerslager on Thu 19th Nov 2015 20:09 UTC
Milan Kerslager
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2009-11-20

Imagine that next year, there will be Lumia on x86 CPU. So this will be totally different story about Win32 Apps on mobile devices then.

Edited 2015-11-19 20:10 UTC

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RE: Where the story ends?
by allanregistos on Sat 21st Nov 2015 00:50 in reply to "Where the story ends?"
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

Imagine that next year, there will be Lumia on x86 CPU. So this will be totally different story about Win32 Apps on mobile devices then.


Is it really possible to run a smartphone with a fan-less x86 CPU without draining the battery within a couple of minute?

Win32apps which are designed for CPU requires more power than the average ARM CPUs. Please educate me.

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RE[2]: Where the story ends?
by dnebdal on Mon 23rd Nov 2015 12:43 in reply to "RE: Where the story ends?"
dnebdal Member since:
2008-08-27

Is it really possible to run a smartphone with a fan-less x86 CPU without draining the battery within a couple of minute?

Win32apps which are designed for CPU requires more power than the average ARM CPUs. Please educate me.


You wouldn't think so, but intel has cellphone-scale x86 CPUs that actually work fairly well; there are a handful of android/x86 devices in the wild. I agree that desktop applications are likely to use more power than the typical phone apps, but there are limits to how much those CPUs will draw no matter the load ... I'd be equally worried about it being too slow.



Phones: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/smartphones/smartphones.html
Tablets: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/tablets/shop-tablets.html#!a...

Edited 2015-11-23 12:44 UTC

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RE[2]: Where the story ends?
by tidux on Mon 23rd Nov 2015 14:45 in reply to "RE: Where the story ends?"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Win32 is just an API, one that's been around since a 486 was considered high end gear. It's possible to write lightweight but extremely useful Win32 applications: Notepad++ and PuTTY come to mind.

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