Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Nov 2005 16:52 UTC, submitted by chrishaney
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The first preview release of (K)Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake has been released. You can download Ubuntu here, and Kubuntu here. Screenshots can be found here and here.
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RE[3]: KDE IS DOOMED....
by archiesteel on Sun 20th Nov 2005 05:41 UTC
archiesteel
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2005-07-02

Please provide the data that led you to this conclusion. All polls I've seen seem to indicate that KDE is the preferred desktop - not that this really matters anyway, as both are good DEs.

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RE[4]: KDE IS DOOMED....
by unoengborg on Sun 20th Nov 2005 15:13 in reply to "RE[3]: KDE IS DOOMED...."
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2005-07-06


Please provide the data that led you to this conclusion. All polls I've seen seem to indicate that KDE is the preferred desktop - not that this really matters anyway, as both are good DEs.


Yes, both KDE and Gnome are good DEs, but they are good for different people.

We have all heard stories about users complaining that their "Cup holder" doesn't work or users that have tried to order new folders from Apple. Most of them are probably made up, but anybody that have worked with support knows that they are not that far from the truth. One example that I know actually happened was a secretary who didn't realize that she could save her documents to disk. When she was ready with a document she printed it saved it in a binder and erased all contents in the document on her computer to be ready to enter new text.

This was about 15 years ago, so I suppose such things doesn't happen anymore, but a lot of people still have far less knowledge than people that read osnews, or any other computer related site.

These are the people that will have problem using KDE. They are not likely to fill out any polls on a Linux site. Even if they happened to enter such site and see the poll, would they even know if they liked KDE or Gnome. Many people even get surprised when you tell them that their PC hardware and windows are separate parts. To these users KDE is not a good fit.

So, the data in your polls could probably give you some weak indication that geeks prefer KDE, but not much more than that. This is no surprise. KDE fits very well into Unix culture, where everything is possible for the Unix wizzard.

To Novell and Red Hat this group of users will not bring in much money. They don't target Linux users, they target windows users as there are so many more of them. So from a business point of view, KDE may be doomed, but that doesn't mean KDE will disappear Kubuntu is a good proof of that.

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RE[5]: KDE IS DOOMED....
by segedunum on Sun 20th Nov 2005 16:04 in reply to "RE[4]: KDE IS DOOMED...."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

These are the people that will have problem using KDE. They are not likely to fill out any polls on a Linux site.

Since those users are not likely to be using either KDE or Gnome that's a mute point.

Many people even get surprised when you tell them that their PC hardware and windows are separate parts. To these users KDE is not a good fit.

Errr, and Gnome's a better fit?!

So, the data in your polls could probably give you some weak indication that geeks prefer KDE, but not much more than that. This is no surprise. KDE fits very well into Unix culture, where everything is possible for the Unix wizzard.

Since the vast majority of Unix workstations out there are being replaced by Linux ones, where a market actually exists, I'd say that's a pretty accurate reflection.

To Novell and Red Hat this group of users will not bring in much money. They don't target Linux users, they target windows users as there are so many more of them.

Novell has no desktop business that's bringing in anything and Red Hat is not targetting anyone - they definitely don't have a desktop business.

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