Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Nov 2005 16:52 UTC, submitted by chrishaney
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The first preview release of (K)Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake has been released. You can download Ubuntu here, and Kubuntu here. Screenshots can be found here and here.
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RE[2]: Disappointment
by SlackerJack on Sun 20th Nov 2005 13:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Disappointment"
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There is nothing ground breaking or special about Oxygen icons set or even KDE4 since it's just a pipe dream, just a flashy name for a desent set of icons. The difference with GNOME/Tango is that it carries on the GNOME look and consistancy.

What "better" technology are you talking about?, if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!). The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)

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RE[3]: Disappointment
by segedunum on Sun 20th Nov 2005 14:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointment"
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There is nothing ground breaking or special about Oxygen icons set or even KDE4 since it's just a pipe dream, just a flashy name for a desent set of icons.

It exists now and is part of a wider plan.

The difference with GNOME/Tango is that it carries on the GNOME look and consistancy.

Tango is a 100% ripoff of KDE's Appeal project. Additionally, Tango is not supposed to be a Gnome project ;-).

What "better" technology are you talking about?, if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!).

Gnome's developers have a serious case of NIH syndrome and will whinge like buggery about the license or find some reason not to use it. They wouldn't know good tech if it slapped some of them in the face.

The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)

Grown up, professional, yada, yada, yada. Well, this professional crap hasn't exactly helped Gnome's popularity, has it? The point of Oxygen is to find a colourful and attractive balance between the current crystal icons and usability thinking.

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RE[4]: Disappointment
by on Sun 20th Nov 2005 14:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Disappointment"
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|Well, this professional crap hasn't exactly helped Gnome's popularity, has it?"

not amongst the linux geeks, no. they prefer to twiddle with kde's 5 billion configuration options than doing anything else. what it has done is helped businesses and ordinary users to see the light and either abandon(or ignore from day 1) kde in favour of gnome.
its the ordinary average users that are the important people.

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RE[4]: Disappointment
by SlackerJack on Sun 20th Nov 2005 16:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Disappointment"
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"Tango is a 100% ripoff of KDE's Appeal project. Additionally, Tango is not supposed to be a Gnome project ;-). "

Sure but look at the icons, they are more inline with GNOME and a replacement for current GNOME icon set. Tango icons (in my view) are not for KDE since they just dont fit, but are perfect for GNOME. Lets not talk about ripoff's because KDE has alot of them from GNOME, but thats opensource for yer. GDM theming in KDM and kicker add to panel are just two examples.

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RE[3]: Disappointment
by on Sun 20th Nov 2005 14:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Disappointment"
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if it was that good GNOME devs would use it(open source remember!)
No. The whole reason why GNOME was started was not of a technical matter but purely because of politics. So why should it be a matter of technical goodness now?


The fact that KDe are changing there kiddy icon set to something more grown up and business like shows it's turning direction (yet again)
Ok, let me get this straigt. In this sentence you want to imply that a change from something you seem to consider (interpreting your choice of words) "bad" (kiddy icon set) to something better (more grown up and business like) is in itself bad.

Wow...that is deep.

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