Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th May 2016 22:52 UTC
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Update: it happened again today. Here's the ad, and here's the "proof" it's coming from Word (when you long-press the notification and tap 'i').


It's been a bit of a running theme lately: advertising in (mobile) operating systems. Today, I was surprised by what I consider a new low, involving incompetence on both Microsoft's and Google's end. This new low has been eating away at me all day.

Let's give a bit of background first. On my smartphone, a Nexus 6P, I have Word, Excel, and PowerPoint installed. I have these installed for my work - I run my translation company, and when new work comes in through e-mail when I'm out and about, I like being able to quickly look at a document before accepting it. Microsoft Office for Android fulfills this role for me. This means I don't actually use them very often - maybe a few times a week.

Imagine my surprise, then, when this happened. Yes, I'm linking to the full screenshot in its full, glorious, Nexus 6P 1440x2560 brilliance.

I have a few questions. First, why is Microsoft sending me an advertisement in my notification tray? Second, why is Word sending me an advertisement for Excel? Third, why is this allowed by Google, even though the Play Store rules prohibit it? Fourth A, why is Microsoft sending me advertisements for products I already have installed? Fourth B, why is Microsoft sending me advertisements for products I already use? Fourth C, why is Microsoft sending me advertisements for products I already pay for because I have an Office 365 subscription? Fifth, who in their right mind at Microsoft thought this was not a 100%, utterly, completely, deeply, ridiculously, unequivocally, endlessly, exquisitely invasive, stupid, aggravating, off-putting, infuriating, and pointless thing to do?

I know both Android and iOS suffer from scummy applications abusing the notification tray for advertising, and I know both Google and Apple have rules that prohibit this that they do not enforce, but I didn't think I'd run into it because... Well, I use only proper, honest applications, right? I don't use the scummy ones? I pay for my applications?

Right?

I think it's time to start enforcing these rules.

Oh, and Microsoft? I haven't forgotten about BeOS. It's not like you have a lot of goodwill to mess around with here.

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RE[2]: Uninstall it
by Veto on Wed 25th May 2016 17:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Uninstall it"
Veto
Member since:
2010-11-13

To be frank, you are the one to have chosen to make your income dependent on the whim of a convicted monopoly - unfortunately a lot of us have.
It is a classic convenience versus freedom dilemma. You can whine all you want, but as long as you are not willing to trade some convenience you cannot expect freedom.
Who cares about "goodwill", as long we are still paying :-)

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RE[3]: Uninstall it
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 25th May 2016 18:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Uninstall it"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It is a classic convenience versus freedom dilemma. You can whine all you want, but as long as you are not willing to trade some convenience you cannot expect freedom.


If "some convenience" means "a roof over my head" and "food", I'll gladly use Office.

Must be nice to be so rich to be able to not give a fuck about your income. Unfortunately for us peasants, we have to make these tradeoffs in order to, you know, not live on in a cardboard box on the streets.

Because there are enough unfortunate souls who live like that as it is.

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RE[4]: Uninstall it
by jessesmith on Wed 25th May 2016 18:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Uninstall it"
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

Thom, you keep claiming no other suites are up to the challenge and you'd be on the street without MS-Office, but I work with MS documents every day (make much of my living off it) and don't run any MS software.

I mean, seriously, MS-Office apps didn't even run on Android phones until very recently and now you can't get along at all without them? How did you survive prior to MS porting their apps to Android?

I think you're over-hyping the important of MS-Office a bit. Well, a lot, really. My income also depends on being able to work with multiple document formats, including Microsoft Office (doc, docx, xlsx, etc). I haven't had to actually run Microsoft Office to do that in over a decade. Yet, I (a mere peasant) still manages to pay the rent.

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RE[4]: Uninstall it
by darknexus on Wed 25th May 2016 18:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Uninstall it"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Must be nice to be so rich to be able to not give a fuck about your income.

The ironic bit is that most of these idealists have no income of their own. That's why they don't understand this necessary, though unfortunate, trade off.

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RE[4]: Uninstall it
by dionicio on Thu 26th May 2016 15:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Uninstall it"
dionicio Member since:
2006-07-12

Pausing for a moment all the bad things We can about Microsoft. Them, more than any Company else, have brought Work Software to the mases [and They should keep at it].

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