Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Nov 2005 12:16 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Mac OS X Sources indicate that OSx86 10.4.3 - which contains increased hardware restrictions - has now been cracked in the same fashion as 10.4.1. It was initially thought that these restrictions would slow the progress of hackers, but it appears that it has done little to deter those tackling the challenge. It appears that "Maxxuss" has outdone Apple yet again.
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RE: OSX tamper proof
by on Mon 21st Nov 2005 17:40 UTC in reply to "OSX tamper proof"

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This is only because you can't escape your "OS should be separate from hardware" mentality. The WHOLE reason everybody wants OS X is because they think it will make their PCs "Just Work". Well, this certainly WOULDN'T be the case if users were allowed to use any old hardware. Why should Apple dilute the whole Mac experience just so a few knuckleheads can have their way?

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RE[2]: OSX tamper proof
by on Mon 21st Nov 2005 20:59 in reply to "RE: OSX tamper proof"
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"Why should Apple dilute the whole Mac experience just so a few knuckleheads can have their way?"

Because there's more than a few. And because they will have their way either by paying, or by hacking. They don't want 'the whole mac experience'. All they want, and all they are going to take, is the OS.

Which would you prefer? To have them take it, or to have them pay for it? Those are your only choices, it seems.

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RE[3]: OSX tamper proof
by on Mon 21st Nov 2005 21:03 in reply to "RE[2]: OSX tamper proof"
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LOL:

wierd why this is acceptable in the Computer world but wouldn't be in any other business

I want your house, but if you don't give it to at a price I want, hell FU, I'll dam well take it anyway

You're forgetting, they might have tamper proof bars up and so you're just going to have to suck it.

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RE[3]: OSX tamper proof
by on Mon 21st Nov 2005 22:44 in reply to "RE[2]: OSX tamper proof"
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"Which would you prefer? To have them take it, or to have them pay for it? Those are your only choices, it seems."

*raised eyebrow*

Sounds like something the mob would say.

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RE[2]: OSX tamper proof
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 01:28 in reply to "RE: OSX tamper proof"
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This is only because you can't escape your "OS should be separate from hardware" mentality.

Given the obvious benefits of that "mentality" - price, choice, competition, and flexibility - I fail to see why that's a bad thing.

The WHOLE reason everybody wants OS X is because they think it will make their PCs "Just Work".

What gives you that impression?

Well, this certainly WOULDN'T be the case if users were allowed to use any old hardware.

Is OS X truly that fragile and inflexible?

BeOS managed to implement seamless "It just works" hardware detection and driver loading on x86 hardware... almost a decade ago. I would be pretty disappointed if the "world's most advanced Operating System" couldn't handle something that BeOS did easily back in '98.

Don't assume that the problems of Windows are inherent to the x86 platform.

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RE[3]: OSX tamper proof
by on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 03:30 in reply to "RE[2]: OSX tamper proof"
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"Given the obvious benefits of that "mentality" - price, choice, competition, and flexibility - I fail to see why that's a bad thing. "

Or the downside of cheap "cut every corner including standards" hardware plus drivers we outsourced to the cheapest programmer.

"What gives you that impression? "

The Mac OS X gleam in Windows eyes.

"Is OS X truly that fragile and inflexible?"

And Windows was (and still is to some) the poster child for the BSOD partialy due to poor drivers and cut-rate hardware.

"BeOS managed to implement seamless "It just works" hardware detection and driver loading on x86 hardware... almost a decade ago. I would be pretty disappointed if the "world's most advanced Operating System" couldn't handle something that BeOS did easily back in '98. "

Sounds more like an argument FOR Macs. Easy to have a "it just works" when the number of supported devices can be counted on fingers and toes.

"Don't assume that the problems of Windows are inherent to the x86 platform."

No, just the attitudes around it.

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