Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Mon 21st Nov 2005 23:51 UTC
Features, Office Microsoft intends to submit file formats for its new Office 12 applications to the European standards body ECMA International. The company hopes this will allay concern about its level of control over document formats. Update by AS: For the curious, here's a sample Office 12 file and a sample XPS file. (Note: Right click > Save As..., we're not configured to serve these files just yet.)
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RE[3]: We'll see..
by sappyvcv on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 04:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: We'll see.."
sappyvcv
Member since:
2005-07-06

Well.. maybe if you didn't say "you idiots". You can tell people what you think will happen, and they can choose to believe it or not. Don't get upset if they don't agree. But instead, you chose to be insulting because people don't take your word for someone elses motives, intentions and end goal.

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RE[4]: We'll see..
by ma_d on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 06:18 in reply to "RE[3]: We'll see.."
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm not stupid, I'm well aware of the methods of sugar coating things so that it seems unoffensive and rosy.
I didn't think I needed to put on airs here, but maybe I do?

Anyway, I'm not really mad, just attempting to portray some emotion in the comment. People who read these comments sections are not the sort of people I'd consider ill-informed on this subject; and so I'd not refer to them as an "idiot" when it comes to this. And I think they're all aware I'm not talking about them in that comment, I'm talking about the other 99.9% of consumers.

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RE[5]: We'll see..
by sappyvcv on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 06:23 in reply to "RE[4]: We'll see.."
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Those 99.9%, the idiots, are the ones you are not trying to convince, not us. Just about everyone here probably has their mind made up, and if they do change it, it won't be because of anything said here.

Are some consumers idiots? Yes. Doesn't mean it's all peachy keen for you to go around calling them all idiots because they aren't in line with your thinking.

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RE[4]: We'll see..
by Celerate on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 06:27 in reply to "RE[3]: We'll see.."
Celerate Member since:
2005-06-29

On the one hand you're right, calling people idiots where they can hear (or read) it usually turns them away from listening to you; although, on the other hand I share in ma_d's frustration. You can warn people about something bad for years on end, the majority will still stick to what provides the path of least resistance until, like lemmings, they follow it over a cliff, or in this case into servitude to Microsoft.

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RE[5]: We'll see..
by sappyvcv on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 06:33 in reply to "RE[4]: We'll see.."
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

It's easy to make predictions.

When it doesn't come true, no one remembers. No one cares. It's all forgotten.

When it does, the ones who doubted it have it rubbed in there face by those who predicted it. "SEE I TOLD YOU!!!"

Of course if you make predictions, you're bound to be right sometimes.

I do understand frustration. I feel the same frustration in other areas, such as politics for one. But frustration and insults do nothing.

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RE[5]: We'll see..
by dylansmrjones on Tue 22nd Nov 2005 15:55 in reply to "RE[3]: We'll see.."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

MS' intentions are clearly documented in mails from MS.

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