Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Nov 2016 15:53 UTC

The UK is about to become one of the world's foremost surveillance states, allowing its police and intelligence agencies to spy on its own people to a degree that is unprecedented for a democracy. The UN's privacy chief has called the situation "worse than scary." Edward Snowden says it’s simply "the most extreme surveillance in the history of western democracy."

The legislation in question is called the Investigatory Powers Bill. It's been cleared by politicians and awaits only the formality of royal assent before it becomes law. The bill will legalize the UK's global surveillance program, which scoops up communications data from around the world, but it will also introduce new domestic powers, including a government database that stores the web history of every citizen in the country. UK spies will be empowered to hack individuals, internet infrastructure, and even whole towns - if the government deems it necessary.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame?"

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It is a well known fact that in the past a number of convicted terrorists have not been deported out of the UK, because their lawyers used human rights act. And when they were finally deported, this was done at a huge cost to the British taxpayer, that money would have been better spent on schools and hospitals.

And to answer your question, if you commit acts of terrorism where innocent people lose their lives, then you should have no rights at all. You should be hanged, drawn and quartered. What would you say to the families of those who died in the Paris and Nice attacks? What about their rights and their lives?

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Vanders Member since:

What would you say to the families of those who died in the Paris and Nice attacks? What about their rights and their lives?

Dunno. Let's ask one of those families shall we?

“On Friday night, you stole the life of an exceptional being, the love of my life, the mother of my son, but you will not have my hate. I don’t know who you are and I don’t want to know. You are dead souls.” He would not, he added, give the terrorists the “satisfaction” of hating nor of fearing them: “You want me to be scared, to see my fellow citizens through suspicious eyes, to sacrifice my freedom for security. You have failed. I will not change.” And he added that his baby son’s happiness (Melvil was 17 months) would continue to defy them: “Because you will not have his hate either.”

Still, keep being angry at whatever bogieman of the week is making you angry. I'm sure it's a fun hobby.

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rom508 Member since:

It would be nice if writing poetry and open letters to your enemies would break their hearts and make them stop killing people. Unfortunately the real world is very brutal and unforgiving. If you value your freedom and your life, you really have to fight for it.

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