Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Nov 2016 15:53 UTC
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The UK is about to become one of the world's foremost surveillance states, allowing its police and intelligence agencies to spy on its own people to a degree that is unprecedented for a democracy. The UN's privacy chief has called the situation "worse than scary." Edward Snowden says it’s simply "the most extreme surveillance in the history of western democracy."

The legislation in question is called the Investigatory Powers Bill. It's been cleared by politicians and awaits only the formality of royal assent before it becomes law. The bill will legalize the UK's global surveillance program, which scoops up communications data from around the world, but it will also introduce new domestic powers, including a government database that stores the web history of every citizen in the country. UK spies will be empowered to hack individuals, internet infrastructure, and even whole towns - if the government deems it necessary.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame?"

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RE[3]: Why brexit?
by BeamishBoy on Sun 27th Nov 2016 03:32 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why brexit?"
BeamishBoy
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"the IPB has been widely and intensively covered in British media"

The bovine excrement odour is strong. There have been small out of the way pieces in newspapers, the odd buried story on the BBC. None of which properly covered the bill


Lexis tells me there have been 43 front-page stories mentioning "investigatory powers bill" or "snooper's charter" in the past four months in four of the major British dailies (Times, Telegraph, Guardian and Mail). Countless editorial comments. Plenty of coverage on Radio 4, LBC, the Today Programme and Newsnight. Plenty of discussion on the Daily Politics and Sunday Politics on BBC2. Coverage on Marr on Sunday mornings. Even the horror show that Robert Peston is running on ITV has covered it.

Just because you (and I for that matter) disagree with the content of the bill doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed at length in the media.

Edited 2016-11-27 03:34 UTC

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RE[4]: Why brexit?
by daveak on Sun 27th Nov 2016 10:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Why brexit?"
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2008-12-29

""the IPB has been widely and intensively covered in British media"

The bovine excrement odour is strong. There have been small out of the way pieces in newspapers, the odd buried story on the BBC. None of which properly covered the bill


Lexis tells me there have been 43 front-page stories mentioning "investigatory powers bill" or "snooper's charter" in the past four months in four of the major British dailies (Times, Telegraph, Guardian and Mail).
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Stories mentioning. That is not widely and intensively covering. That is the point, they have been small pieces, not main headlines, and then barely covering the content of the bill.

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RE[5]: Why brexit?
by BeamishBoy on Mon 28th Nov 2016 02:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Why brexit?"
BeamishBoy Member since:
2010-10-27

Stories mentioning. That is not widely and intensively covering. That is the point, they have been small pieces, not main headlines, and then barely covering the content of the bill.


Hi. "Stories mentioning" includes those - front page! - pieces (37) in which the IPB was the entire focus of the article. You also appear to have missed this bit:

Plenty of coverage on Radio 4, LBC, the Today Programme and Newsnight. Plenty of discussion on the Daily Politics and Sunday Politics on BBC2. Coverage on Marr on Sunday mornings. Even the horror show that Robert Peston is running on ITV has covered it.


The idea that this bill has not received widespread coverage in British media is simply fantasy. Unfortunately, the majority of people in the UK don't appear to be sufficiently bothered by the contents of the bill to prevent its passage.

Edited 2016-11-28 02:34 UTC

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