Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 4th Dec 2016 01:16 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

The FireBee is a new Atari-compatible computer. Ataris and Atari-Clones are special computers with their own hard & software. They aren't PC's, Mac's nor Amiga compatible.

A FireBee is similar to an Atari Falcon and works very much like that. It will run most of the Atari compatible software that would run on a Falcon. Different to older Ataris and their clones, the FireBee is a modern computer that supports almost everything you'd expect from a today's machine, like USB ports, Ethernet, DVI-I monitor connector, SD-card reader and more.

This brand-new Atari compatible is not cheap, but much like the current Amiga computers, if you're worried about the price, you're probably not the intended audience. Note that even though the order page says "pre-order", I think that's a typo - you can order them directly from the Swiss company that makes them, too.

I love that people and companies are passionate enough to keep developing, building, and selling machines like this - it's a vital effort to keep platforms alive well into the future.

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RE[3]: Emulators
by Kochise on Sun 4th Dec 2016 19:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Emulators"
Kochise
Member since:
2006-03-03

I reiterate, the Atari machines are no longer, Cubase and Calamus have been ported and improved to other more up to date architectures. Atari softwares lacks of current refinement about gaming, network, printing or scanning, sound, video, whatever.

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RE[4]: Emulators
by leech on Mon 5th Dec 2016 03:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Emulators"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

I reiterate, the Atari machines are no longer, Cubase and Calamus have been ported and improved to other more up to date architectures. Atari softwares lacks of current refinement about gaming, network, printing or scanning, sound, video, whatever.


Calamus still supports the Atari (though the 2015 edition requires at least 800x600x256 colors to work, they always required a higher resolution, but back in the day it only worked with no color.)
https://www.calamus.net/download/sl2015.php


Cubase as far as I know still supports the same plugins no matter what platform you're running it on. So yeah, there are still development / software uses for this thing. Otherwise why would they bother? It's not like the Coldfire would run gaming or anything.

Besides, someone actually wrote a google cloud print frontend for GEM. I haven't used it yet, but I should test it out. Loved messing with the DTP packages back then, they always made more sense to me than the fancier word processors... I mean either do basic word processing, or do DTP, don't try to do something in the middle...

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RE[4]: Emulators
by feamatar on Mon 5th Dec 2016 10:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Emulators"
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2014-02-25

And this project is not to replace those definitely, so I don't see what is the problem here. This is about hacking, it is not a commercial project. Though you can buy it, it is not about making profit or a viable company, it is about sharing what you did. I think it is art in its truest form.

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RE[5]: Emulators
by Kochise on Mon 5th Dec 2016 11:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Emulators"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Sure is, but when you put 700 € in it, that makes a rather expensive toy. It is supposed to be an Atari computer evolution, yet is rigged with all sort of incompatibilities (beside GEM based softwares).

In itself the project is good, a bit expensive, but good. It is the fact that one can be mislead and think he can use his library of old atari software on it without flaws. First, it is a Coldfire, not a 68000.

So you'd better take this nice machine for what it is, and you described it well : a hackputer. With some emulated atari support.

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RE[4]: Emulators
by sergio on Tue 6th Dec 2016 01:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Emulators"
sergio Member since:
2005-07-06

I reiterate, the Atari machines are no longer, Cubase and Calamus have been ported and improved to other more up to date architectures. Atari softwares lacks of current refinement about gaming, network, printing or scanning, sound, video, whatever.


Well, what you say is rational and I agree 100%... but I suspect you've never worked with artists! Many musicians are used to a particular software version and they'll never ever change.

I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of Atari/Cubase users willing to have the fastest Atari in the world to run their loved old Cubase version faster/better than migrate to a new platform.

I have no experience with Atari users but I worked with a ton of musicians that used PowerPC Macs (most of the running OS9) and It's impossible to make them switch to newer software/hardware... they love OS9 and they don't want to upgrade, they use old G4s and G5s and will never change. I suspect the same could happen with Atari/Cubase users.

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