Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2016 20:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Basically: not having a headphone jack might not be enough to deter sales of a phone, but it's still really annoying and requires users to spend additional money to reclaim very basic functionality from their devices. And most of that money flows back to the device vendor, effectively increasing the price of the phone. We've taken something simple and universal, and turned it into something complex and proprietary, for no obvious benefits. It's a bad trade-off. It's... user-hostile and stupid. There's just no getting around it.

There's no tangible benefit to ditching the universal 3.5mm jack - whether Apple does it, or Samsung does it, or anyone else does it.

We're months and months into this discussion now, and to this day, nobody - not Apple, not Samsung, not John Gruber, not any commenters anywhere - has given me a real, valid, tangible reason why removing the 3.5mm jack is a good idea. Lightning audio is stupid because only the iPhone/iPad support it (not even Macs come with Lightning ports), and wireless audio is garbage - something even Apple is only now finding out. Those wireless AirPods Apple unveiled to much fanfare? They have been delayed and delayed, and are actually still unavailable, because Bluetooh audio is complete and utter garbage.

It almost feels like removing the 3.5mm jack was a sociological science experiment to determine just how far people were willing to go to defend and rationalise a deeply dumb idea.

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Comment by jigzat
by jigzat on Sat 10th Dec 2016 16:05 UTC
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Apple ditched the serial ports and was the first one to use USB, same story here. People complained about compatibility and how serial ports were enough.

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RE: Comment by jigzat
by Adurbe on Mon 12th Dec 2016 10:26 in reply to "Comment by jigzat"
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2005-07-06

Apple ditched ADB, not serial ports.

Serial ports were used by PCs as the standard for keyboards/mouse and parallel for printers. Apple used ADB for both of these so couldn't use most options on the market.

USB was a desperate attempt to utilize PC peripherals again and to get OEMs to make drivers for the Mac. As USB was invented by Intel, Intel were the ones that pumped millions into getting manufacturers to use their tech.

It would be interesting if that influence constituted a misuse of their monopoly position.. but thats a convo for another day ;)

Edited 2016-12-12 10:27 UTC

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