Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2016 20:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Basically: not having a headphone jack might not be enough to deter sales of a phone, but it's still really annoying and requires users to spend additional money to reclaim very basic functionality from their devices. And most of that money flows back to the device vendor, effectively increasing the price of the phone. We've taken something simple and universal, and turned it into something complex and proprietary, for no obvious benefits. It's a bad trade-off. It's... user-hostile and stupid. There's just no getting around it.

There's no tangible benefit to ditching the universal 3.5mm jack - whether Apple does it, or Samsung does it, or anyone else does it.

We're months and months into this discussion now, and to this day, nobody - not Apple, not Samsung, not John Gruber, not any commenters anywhere - has given me a real, valid, tangible reason why removing the 3.5mm jack is a good idea. Lightning audio is stupid because only the iPhone/iPad support it (not even Macs come with Lightning ports), and wireless audio is garbage - something even Apple is only now finding out. Those wireless AirPods Apple unveiled to much fanfare? They have been delayed and delayed, and are actually still unavailable, because Bluetooh audio is complete and utter garbage.

It almost feels like removing the 3.5mm jack was a sociological science experiment to determine just how far people were willing to go to defend and rationalise a deeply dumb idea.

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RE: Ah
by Mx9001 on Mon 12th Dec 2016 03:34 UTC in reply to "Ah"
Mx9001
Member since:
2016-12-12

Here's the reason, the simple reason: Wiggle, and Channel Loss.

I've owned a number of Apple products and am a heavy podcast listener and walker. The old jack "wiggles" after long heavy use, and then it becomes hard to repair. This is a repair Apple now won't have to do.

The new connector is tighter with no wiggle.

I felt like Apple built this INNOVATION just to address my complaints about having a perfectly usable iPhone, but not a good jack.

Apple fixed a problem.

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RE[2]: Ah
by rener on Mon 12th Dec 2016 13:00 in reply to "RE: Ah"
rener Member since:
2006-02-27

the new connector is much more sensitive. after some weeks of use, wear and dust the Lighning audio starts to become unreliable.

Also most 3.5mm connectors are angled, while the lightning is going out straight - making it far more prone to pressure and pending in pockets, jackets, ... can not even imagine using this lightning connector in a jeans pocket. Must be totally bending and breaking.

I personally used all my phones (from orig. 1st gen iPhone 1, to iPhone 6s) in my jeans pocket with angled 3.5mm cables and had not a single connector failure ever.

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RE[2]: Ah
by segedunum on Tue 13th Dec 2016 16:25 in reply to "RE: Ah"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I think that's one of the most desperate and ludicrous excuses I've ever heard.

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