Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2016 20:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Basically: not having a headphone jack might not be enough to deter sales of a phone, but it's still really annoying and requires users to spend additional money to reclaim very basic functionality from their devices. And most of that money flows back to the device vendor, effectively increasing the price of the phone. We've taken something simple and universal, and turned it into something complex and proprietary, for no obvious benefits. It's a bad trade-off. It's... user-hostile and stupid. There's just no getting around it.

There's no tangible benefit to ditching the universal 3.5mm jack - whether Apple does it, or Samsung does it, or anyone else does it.

We're months and months into this discussion now, and to this day, nobody - not Apple, not Samsung, not John Gruber, not any commenters anywhere - has given me a real, valid, tangible reason why removing the 3.5mm jack is a good idea. Lightning audio is stupid because only the iPhone/iPad support it (not even Macs come with Lightning ports), and wireless audio is garbage - something even Apple is only now finding out. Those wireless AirPods Apple unveiled to much fanfare? They have been delayed and delayed, and are actually still unavailable, because Bluetooh audio is complete and utter garbage.

It almost feels like removing the 3.5mm jack was a sociological science experiment to determine just how far people were willing to go to defend and rationalise a deeply dumb idea.

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RE[2]: I disagree
by mathhammer on Tue 13th Dec 2016 00:42 UTC in reply to "RE: I disagree"
mathhammer
Member since:
2016-12-12

the problem is you didn't get the ugly Bluetooth headphones.

I have these: ARCTIC Sound ORACO-ERM28-GBA01 Headphones P311
24 hour battery life
24 feet from the phone
full sound
survive the gym
ugly

but they work and work well.

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RE[3]: I disagree
by henderson101 on Tue 13th Dec 2016 11:32 in reply to "RE[2]: I disagree"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I have these:

https://www.7dayshop.com/products/7dayshop-aero-freedom-active-noise...

They are pretty decent. I mainly use them wired, but that's more to do with the Bluetooth on my work laptop being crappy, making pairing a PITA. With my phone or Surface Pro, they are perfect. The noise cancellation is pretty decent too.

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