Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 23rd Nov 2005 18:54 UTC
GTK+ The GIMP toolkit (GTK+) matures to include yet another platform. This project aims to bring native GTK+ support to the Apple Mac OS X platform. The basic implementation is sponsored by Imendio AB and the work so far has been done by Anders Carlsson (of Imendio).
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RE[2]: GTK+ for Win32
by Wrawrat on Wed 23rd Nov 2005 21:36 UTC in reply to "RE: GTK+ for Win32"
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2005-06-30

Define "pretty well". To me, its look and feel is foreign (even with Wimp; you got the inversed button order, the GNOME file dialog... with the latest version I tried (2.6.8), anyway) and it got the sluggish redraw time. Hardly what I would call "pretty well".

To me, it looks like more a port than a supported platform. I hope the OS X port is going to get a better treatement (which I do not doubt since this platform got more respect and less hatred than Win32).

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RE[3]: GTK+ for Win32
by RenatoRam on Wed 23rd Nov 2005 21:48 in reply to "RE[2]: GTK+ for Win32"
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2005-11-14

The order of buttons, dimensions of them, and presence of icons on the buttons are controlled by settings in the gtk engine: if they are wrong, then complain to the packager of the engine and/or application.

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RE[4]: GTK+ for Win32
by Wrawrat on Thu 24th Nov 2005 04:23 in reply to "RE[3]: GTK+ for Win32"
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2005-06-30

Perhaps you're right. I am not that familiar with the toolkit (I do development development in KDE). Still, I believe this kind of stuff should be done automatically. I have used a few GTK applications (GIMP, Gaim, Inkscape, perhaps one or two I don't remember) and while their look wasn't bad, their feeling was alien. They had the quirks I described. It doesn't make the applications crappy nor useless, but they look more like ports!

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RE[3]: GTK+ for Win32
by dylansmrjones on Wed 23rd Nov 2005 21:50 in reply to "RE[2]: GTK+ for Win32"
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2005-10-02

I don't think hatred or disrespect has anything to do with it. It's more a matter of securing same behaviour across platforms than securing a "native" look and feel on each platform.

It does feel slightly foreign, but this is true for many applications incl. several from Microsoft (Media Player and MSN Messenger, Outlook, Office 2003 etc.)

But no doubt wxWidgets, FLTK and Fox Tool Kit have a much more native feel than GTK+, but this has nothing to do with the tool kit working good or not. Stability has something to do with that.

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RE[4]: GTK+ for Win32
by on Thu 24th Nov 2005 01:24 in reply to "RE[2]: GTK+ for Win32"
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Well, you can't stop complaining and hope things. Better, work and donate effor, and stop trolling. You pay nothing for it, and it you intend to give your opinion, give a reasanoble one.

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RE[5]: GTK+ for Win32
by Wrawrat on Thu 24th Nov 2005 04:35 in reply to "RE[4]: GTK+ for Win32"
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2005-06-30

My opinion have nothing to do with the amount of time or money invested in the project. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, whether I gave 10 grands or I paid nothing. As for my complaints, they are more observations.

By the way, "trolling" and "I don't agree with you" are two different things.

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